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    But HB, OBC, whatever you do with reloading, make sure you take GOOD NOTES!

    I have pages upon pages of notes in my computer (text files) where I write down everything that I do, test out, etc. Because a negative result is still a result. And if I get that combo power/bullet again down the road and need to know where to start, at least I have bad data and know what doesn't work.

    But I'm sure you both do that already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    I tested some of my first reloads and came to the bittersweet conclusion that nothing I did made any difference.

    I worked up in .5gr increments of H335 from 23gr up to 25gr and I was shooting approximately 1.2" groups or better with each combination. Case length was 1.750" and OAL was 2.230" for every round. Dogtown 55gr FMJs

    I also conducted another test:

    I made up 10 rounds with identical brass: same stamp, same year, same weight. Each round had 24.5gr of H335 hand measured and then re-measured. Case length was 1.750" and OAL was 2.230" for all ten rounds. MidwayUSA "Dogtown" 55gr FMJ bullets. (Group A)

    Then I made up another 10 rounds with mixed brass (FC, PMC, AD, REM etc headstamps from different years). These rounds were 24.8gr of H335 as measured by the Lee AutoDisk Powder Measure. Case length was between 1.748 and 1.7515 and OAL was between 2.226 and 2.24 Both of these measurements were intentionally but randomly varied so I could measure their effects. (Group B) I wanted to see if it was worth the extra time and effort to make sure everything was "perfect".

    Methodology:
    I used a 10rd Magpul PMag for all tests. I sat at a wooden bench and used sandbags to support the rifle. All rounds were fired from a 14.7" 1:7 twist barrel of unknown manufacture. 5.56 chamber with approximately 2k fmj rounds through it.
    Temp was 57F with 0-5kt variable breeze. Humidity was <20%. Sun was out and Prairie Dogs were hiding. ;D

    I started by firing 10 rounds of PMC X-Tac 5.56 to practice my fundamentals and warm up the gun.

    Immediately following the fundamentals review, I fired 5 rounds from Group A at the center of the paper plate. Then I loaded the magazine with 5 rounds from Group B and fired them two ticks (approximately 2 inches) up from the center of the plate. It was when I examined the paper plate that I figured I probably should have fixed my zero before the test.

    Results:
    Group A may have produced slightly better results with 1 "flier", but it's impossible to say from this test if the extra effort at the reloading bench was worth it. More testing is necessary.

    Conclusion:
    The results of this test are 100% dependent on my shooting abilities, which are mediocre at best. Maybe a better shooter with a better gun could have given more impressive results.



    IMHO, if you want better than 1MOA accuracy from 55gr boolits, you need a slower twist. 55gr is at the ragged edge of stabilization for 1:7 short barrel.
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    Actually, most of you guys are way ahead of where we're at, at this point. We have notes placed on bullet holders of what stuff is, but it's not kept in a master log anywhere yet. Then again, we've only tested 3 calibers with only three powders, and three different projectile weights.

    We still don't know wtf we're doing yet anyways. But, we are safe about it, and we measure everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mcjhr View Post
    Naps rule!
    IMHO, if you want better than 1MOA accuracy from 55gr boolits, you need a slower twist. 55gr is at the ragged edge of stabilization for 1:7 short barrel.
    I'm guessing you didn't mean to quote McJunior's post about naps...

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    Yo Brutal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otterbatcat View Post
    Howdy fellers.

    I've only had 6 cigarettes so far today, and that's really good for me. Prolly have 1 or 2 more before bed, but under 10 in roughly 18 hours would be outstanding for me. I'm proud of that, and I'll try for less tomorrow and on down that road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuffCyclist View Post
    I'm guessing you didn't mean to quote McJunior's post about naps...
    Damn forum has been doing that to me all day. I should probably close and re-open the browser.
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    Always misquoted

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    Y'all probably remember my car crash last June.

    Today i noticed the glove box wasn't opening easily. It had serious drag until it was pulled down an inch or so. Took a closer look, one of the plastic hinges appears broken. The cap for the fuse box also seems to be very tight on the car. I'm concerned about the dashboard having shifted now. Going to swing by the shop that did the initial repairs tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    IMHO, if you want better than 1MOA accuracy from 55gr boolits, you need a slower twist. 55gr is at the ragged edge of stabilization for 1:7 short barrel.
    Good to know. Thanks. Eventually I'll get a better gun, but this is what I have right now, and it's what I could afford.
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