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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    For flat base like the SX's when reloading, it's better to chamfer the case neck to get that bullet seated with minimal issues. For the lower starting powder weight, i say this as someone who was where you are now. Looked at the load data started from low end in .5 increments. After seeing what the performance was at lower compared to mid powder weights. I saw no reason to start at the bottom where across the board better results, accuracy wise were always in mid - higher end. This coming from one who was stressed that i was getting a 0.1-0.2 fluctuation in powder weight when i stated reloading . Forget about OAL issues, too.

    BUT... reloading is always about ones comfort level, not what other people due when they reload. You can take everything as a suggestion, nothing more.
    What you typed was confusing, but I think you just had a brain fart when you typed it is all. Tested today and middle charge was definitely the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    What you typed was confusing, but I think you just had a brain fart when you typed it is all. Tested today and middle charge was definitely the best.
    Chamfer the case mouth, allows flat base bullets to seat w/out pushing the neck in a little, or distorting it. Possibly what you're experiencing and it looks like those are seating a tad low. Maybe
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    No, you said that you wouldn't bother with the lowest weight charge, then specifically said you wanted the fps of that charge.

    On a side note, I DID chamfer every case. I tried to trim to 1.750, but many went down as far as 1.747/8. I think the loaded OAL was around 2.20ish?
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    Now don't make fun of me too bad, because I have very little rifle experience, probably less than 500 rounds total for every long gun I've ever fired. I am NOT good at shooting supported, or free hand. These targets were at 100 yards with me standing and using a backpack on the hood of my van as a rest. The wind had stopped by then so no blame there. After the first test batch (21.5g), wulf202 and I separated the rounds with the bad noses and we could see that most of the flyers were those rounds, but not all. Either way, I feel like I got productive enough results.

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    Don't be too hard on yourself about any of your first reloading attempts. The kid and I messed some stuff up too, just make sure what you chamber isn't going to send the bolt back in your face. I think Bob said it...but no posting, no TV, no interruptions when you're reloading.


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    I think I'm giving the wrong impression. I'm just taking you guys along on the reloading ride. I'm not worried about the reloading as 1) I've done it before enough to navigate and 2) if I don't screw stuff up, or do it wrong, I won't learn anything. I was saying I'm bad at shooting rifles, which is true. Most people put up pictures of groups as brags. Not me. In fact, ever since I started reloading years ago, all my test loads are in batches of 10 because I know that only three shots won't tell me anything useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Now don't make fun of me too bad, because I have very little rifle experience, probably less than 500 rounds total for every long gun I've ever fired. I am NOT good at shooting supported, or free hand. These targets were at 100 yards with me standing and using a backpack on the hood of my van as a rest. The wind had stopped by then so no blame there. After the first test batch (21.5g), wulf202 and I separated the rounds with the bad noses and we could see that most of the flyers were those rounds, but not all. Either way, I feel like I got productive enough results.

    Doesn't matter where they hit, it's about finding the load the performs best. Looks like 23 gr is it ~ .1-.2 on either side.
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    I actually have a sandbag and an HBAR Tactical bean bag that I meant to bring, but forgot them. I'm pretty happy with the results as I can see a clear pattern of what load ranges I intend to develop further.

    I've been doing some research on this stuff and I ran into an old thread where someone was saying that you couldn't shoot sub-moa for .223 out of an semi-auto. Is that true? Looks like some of those groups are sub-moa, even if I don't personally count them (or know how you're supposed to measure them).

    What do you consider a decent magnification scope? I'm only load developing at 100 yards and I could see my hits on the splatter target.
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