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    And the family couldn't care less about the publicity- they see payday coming, and they'll probably get one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elhuero View Post
    he had himself a "people that annoy you" moment that his body was not equipped to handle.
    LOL. Using one awesome show reference to sneak in another awesome show reference.
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    I didn't even need to see the video to know pretty much exactly what happened. The guy had cocaine in his system (the media knew this the entire time, but good luck finding a news article over the last couple months that mentioned it... full disclosure and facts have no bearing on what the media vomits across your TV screen), was a homeless drug addict, was arrested on a warrant and fought with deputies inside the jail. The results are tragic, but that doesn't mean that blame should be put on everyone else other than the deceased, solely for the sake of blaming SOMEONE.

    As expected, the media went apeshit (like they always do) and pasted the deceased's photo all over the nightly news and newspapers for the next 1/2 year (and not a photo of the guy in his normal state of being, which was a homeless drunk drug addict, but instead sought out the nicest smiling angelic sympathy photo they could find), referred to him exclusively as a "homeless street preacher" (it sounds sooooo much better than what he really was, doesn't it?), and then gathered up the typical group of ignorant raucous he-who-speaks-loudest-is-always-correct mouth breathers who always come out of the woodwork after a police incident to splatter all over the news talking about how that poor black man was murdered and blah blah blah yakitty yakitty we need a federal civil rights investigation bullshit something needs to be done OH MY GOD JEEBUS SAVE US THE POLICE IS MURDERIN MINORITIES UP IN HERE! Of course, none of these family members were anywhere to be seen when their loved one was out on the streets, homeless, smoking crack, getting arrested, etc. But the second they see dollar signs, oh lordy lord it's on. And lawyers jump all over it because the city will throw money at any-damn-one for any-damn-thing, so getting a settlement is the easiest payday around (aka "The Denver Lotto").

    Just because someone stands on the steps in front of the jail and talks extremely loud into a microphone does NOT mean that that person has any idea what the fuck they are talking about... but it DOES make for great media sensationalizing, so you better believe that is what you're gonna see on the news that night. Remember: "If it bleeds, it leads!" The media has not given the slightest shit about actual journalism in decades, as all they really care about is causing controversy and MAKING news. The police have always been the media's perennial pincushion, and the local media in Denver have always been worse than average in that regard. The city of Denver, for their part, has only worsened the problem with their complete refusal to ever stand up for themselves and call out the local tabloids for their blatant bullshit.

    This has been the case with all the other brutality cases the media has been monkey humping recently. The news talks up a whole lot of rabble rousing with their reporting, but have you ever noticed how completely devoid of factual substance the news segments are? If the "reporters" actually REPORTED the facts of the incident, there wouldn't be anything to scream and shout about. Instead, they intentionally bury the real story and replace it with sensationalism, because that is what gets the ignorant masses to actually tune-in every night. Can you imagine how utterly boring the news would be if it was just a variety of thoroughly researched and objectively presented daily events?

    Cops seem to be thugs up in Denver, I'll avoid it whenever I can. Cops beat a guy up really bad, get fired & then city pays $795,000. These cops killed this guy, should be worth a couple million...the city sucks.
    Hopefully you will never see a news segment on gun violence and hear about how guns are bad and kill people... you would obviously feel compelled to give up all your firearms and renounce your status as an evil gunowner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post

    Not to jump in the fray, but your source is an attorney quoting Westword?
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    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    Not to jump in the fray, but your source is an attorney quoting Westword?
    saw that coming...
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    If you see the video you can see him getting choked out while pulling his head back and his lifeless body being carried into a cell. Where it was found later dead. IDK all the details but I would have guessed a broken neck instead of respiratory failure.
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    bushmaster, your links are only helping me to prove my point. First off, a quick search would reveal a lot more than just a single The Denver Channel article on alleged brutality, so I'm not sure why you decided to pick that particular article. However, if you read even just that one article, you will see just how utterly devoid of information it is. All it tells you is that someone who could surely have made millions of dollars at trial, decided for some reason (and with the recommendation of his attorney) to settle for $40k. Why would someone looking at a sure-thing million dollar payday decide to pass it up and accept a $40k settlement (that his attorney will take a huge chunk of anyway)? Could it possibly be that the facts of his case would not have passed muster in front of a judge and jury, where all the intimate details and relevant facts of the case (instead of just media-induced hysteria) would be revealed? Do you realize that ALL big cities in the US have legal teams and budget appropriations dedicated solely to legal settlements against the city?

    I can guarantee you that $40k is SIGNIFICANTLY less than the actual cost to the city of going to trial and effectively defending itself against the accusations. Therefore, the settlement was, from a strictly financial standpoint, a good decision. Now, there is certainly a "principle" standpoint that cities must overcome when they settle, but we all know that $$$ is the only real consideration. Therefore, the guy (and his attorney) gets his $40k settlement to go away, and the city saves money in the long run. And there you have, as I mentioned earlier, "The Denver Lotto". A good decision for the city from a financial standpoint, although at the expense of standing up for principle. Of course when the media reports it, the story is always butchered into an obvious admission of guilt and wrongdoing by the city (and therefore needing additional media scrutiny and sensationalizing!), instead of what it really is.

    Oh, and your link to the criminal defense attorney page, which in turn links to a Westword reference, which in turn is a reference to a study completed by A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL IN SEATTLE THAT HATES THE POLICE, is just plain sad. I actually remember reading the Westword article when it first came out, and almost ripping my hair out at how absurd the story was. First off, the Westword is an "alternative" paper that doesn't even pretend to be a real news source (and their only real "claim to fame" is their resident Weed Critic that samples local marijuana and provides written critiques). Then, if you were to ACTUALLY READ the "study" that the Westword refers to, you would see that it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH FOUNDED ALLEGATIONS OF BRUTALITY. Instead, the "study" is numbers put together by some hippy in Seattle that absolutely hates police. The numbers are based on "PUBLICIZED reports of police excessive force", for which the study finds that Denver has the highest rate of PUBLICIZED excessive force allegations in the nation. Now, the reason I highlighted the word "publicized" is because of how important the word is in this context: The study bases their numbers not on how many founded excessive force allegations are made, but instead on HOW MANY MEDIA REPORTS ARE BROADCAST of alleged allegations. In other words, all the study shows is that the Denver media reports on more incidents of alleged excessive force than the media in any other city in the nation, assuming the numbers are even correct. Which, if you haven't yet noticed, is EXACTLY WHAT I ARTICULATED IN MY FIRST POST! The media here goes apeshit with any allegation of police brutality, because it makes for interesting news. Then, the media has the nerve to actually cite a "study" who's only conclusion is that the media coverage of brutality allegations is higher here than anywhere else in the county. And that is NEWS! Do you see the circular logic the media is using here? The more THEY REPORT, the BIGGER THE PROBLEM BECOMES!

    Now, if you actually want to base your opinions off of CONCRETE, OBJECTIVE, REALISTIC numbers, then maybe you should refer to the statistics on "incidents of force used per arrest", which actually shows that Denver is BELOW the national average for use of force incidents. Of course, objective data like that is just plain lame and boring, and does not make for exciting news headlines. So screw reality, lets just have us some good 'ol fashioned rabble rousing and sell some damn newspapers! [south park voice]"RABBLE RABBLE, RABBLE!"[\south park voice]

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