Pancho, your idea that cheap labor is better for companies is ridiculous. That will bring the country down as a whole. wages need to be livable.

and by livable, I mean I want to be able to afford the present day and future markets. cutting wages while the price of everything else goes up is going to bring everyone down. I don't want to live like they do with multiple families in a home. That is what their low wages allow them to afford. If that is what you want, please, by all means move in to a trailer with them and let me know how it goes for you.

The companies that hire these people put good companies out of work. The companies who are doing it right can't compete. They are the ones doing it right, they are paying their taxes, paying into the system that the illegal employees of the other company are taking advantage of. The illegals get to double dip while everyone else gets fucked. the illegals have enough cash to pay for their necessities and still send money back home. They also cost us more for insurance, make us wait longer lines, create more crime, cluster up the school system. the list goes on yet you want to tell me they are good for the country. YOU are the one living in a fantasy land.

There are already enough people that can't afford their homes, their health, get a job. Oh, and did i mention that those people are here legally? yeah your illegal buddies you love so much are fucking the rest of the citizens who need jobs. and not only them, but those who employ them. Both need to be punished....excessively.

Apparently this isn't as much of an immigration issue as it is a job issue.
Unemployment is at 9.0% right now:

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/unit...mployment-rate


number if illegal immigrants in US...guessed of course:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38961638...-us-declining/
The study puts the number of illegal immigrants down to about where it was in 2005. They still make up roughly 4 percent of the U.S. population.

4%. even if 1% of those illegals were unemployed or had jobs unattainable by present day out of work citizens, the unemployment rate would still go down 3%. 6 % unemployment rate is high, but it wouldn't be horrible given todays current world economy. over 10,000,000 illegals are here in the country and that is a low estimate.

10,000,000 jobs out there. hmmmm...that is the BEST job creation that has probably EVER been available to the US.