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    Thinking about doing a build in something other than 5.56 just for kicks. Thought I would pick everyone's brains for their thoughts or opinions or experiences. Thinking about maybe the 300 Blackout but I am not opposed to other options. I could also go with the 6.8 SPC. If anyone has any information on the 6.5 Grendel or maybe the 6mm PPC that would be great too. Thanks.

    By the way, this build is going to be an 18" barrel if that makes any difference. Just going to use it at the range to punch holes in paper out to about 200 yards. The more accurate the better.

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    One that I am interested in is the 300 blackout and from what I understand it is like the 7.62x39(AK round) and is supposed to be open for any company to use. It also is supposed to work in 5.56 mags. If anyone here has tried this round I would also like to hear your opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapperJohn View Post
    One that I am interested in is the 300 blackout and from what I understand it is like the 7.62x39(AK round) and is supposed to be open for any company to use. It also is supposed to work in 5.56 mags. If anyone here has tried this round I would also like to hear your opinion.
    Most of the 30 caliber rounds seem to be quite similar... hopefully someone will come along and explain to me the big difference between the 300 AAC Blackout, the 300 Whisper, and for that matter the 7.62x40 WT.

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    Im pretty sure 300blk is the commercialized version of the 300 whisper.

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    I would vote for the 300 Whisper family. Very easy to reload, uses AR mags and bolts. Using surplus bullets it is also relatively cheap to shoot.

    I have a bolt gun and a 9 inch AR. Lots of fun and accurate. Very easy to suppress.

    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    hopefully someone will come along and explain to me the big difference between the 300 AAC Blackout, the 300 Whisper, and for that matter the 7.62x40 WT.
    Chamber wise there is almost no difference between the three. The difference is in the throat length. The Blackout has a very long throat, the 7.62x40 (Wilson Combats version of the Whisper) throat is longer than the JD Jones version, but shorter than the Blackout. The 300 Whisper is all over the map as it was never standardized.

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    The PPC has feeding issues due to the shoulder.

    7.62x39 reliable mags are still hard to find.

    I chose the 6x45. A necked up 223 to 6mm with 30% more energy with the same weight bullet when comparing 223 and 6x45. The bonus to the 6x45 is just barrel swap. All standard AR parts work including bolt and mag.

    Another one that really intrigues me is the 6.5 PCC
    It is a necked up 223 as well as a shoulder move and a trim.
    Here's a link to the progress on that cartridge in the AR: http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/65m...ar-t95187.html
    It has the muzzle energy of the 7.62x39 with better ballistics than the 223. Down range energy it has more energy at 200 yards than the 223 has at the muzzle.

    I don't like the Grendel... FWIW
    The 6.8SPC excels in a short barrel.

    If paper punching is just your goal... the 17 Remington, 204 Ruger, 20 Practical and 20 Tactical come to mind. They are all lasers compared to the 223 out to 200 yards.
    I say lets all remove the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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    300 Whisper all the way, then suppress it. Most of the others like grendle and 6.8 are made to optimize longer distance shooting.
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    I wish a few more barrel profiles would show up in .300 blackout. I know exactly what I want but can only get it in 5.56 and 6.8

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    Quote Originally Posted by splogan View Post
    I wish a few more barrel profiles would show up in .300 blackout. I know exactly what I want but can only get it in 5.56 and 6.8
    Get in touch with a custom AR manuacturer instead of just build houses and they will cut you what ever barrel profile you want.
    My suggestion would be Mike Milli one of the experts and pioneers of alt cal AR's.
    www.dtechsuperstore.com
    He also has a accuracy guarantee. He is currently using Shilen blanks.
    I say lets all remove the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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