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    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    What?

    Posse Comitatus:
    Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

    There is no letter or spirit within this law concerning accredited law enforcement officers conducting law enforcement activities, period. This law is in it's entirety concerning the use of military personnel to enforce civilian law. The inference that the equipment or tactics they use constitutes the equivalence of military force is a very dangerous position to take. It directly relates back to controlling firearms or gear based on it's military affiliation.

    Basically, you just made the same arguement that all the anti's make about black guns, only you made it in relation to LE instead of civilians. Bravo.
    Thank you, totally forgot to mention this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post

    I don't know about that:

    That was in England, in a country with no written Constitution and where guns are outlawed (practically).

    Not to mention that your source is Wikipedia and it was in a public place. Lot's of witness accounts to tell what did or did not happen.

    The story we are talking about hasn't even really been released yet.

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    hehe somebody go post this in coptalk

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    Quote Originally Posted by SideShow Bob View Post
    The article also said he had gone to bed after working the night shift plus overtime. So it was the middle of the night for him !
    And 9am is primetime for my sleep pattern too ... but I still don't call it middle of the night.

    I was more just making a point

    as for it being 71 rounds...

    I have a feeling the homeowner accidentally swept the muzzle on one cop and he freaked and fired... ( not saying in the wrong persay... if I was knockin down doors and someone had an AR and pointed it in my general direction .. I'd probably light em up too ) the other officers fired since that seems to happen often in these situations.. one guy fires and the rest open up too ....

    Also if my understanding on how these ops work ... The swat team just knocks on the door they are told too.. some one else picked the wrong door I'm willing to bet.

    If the story had been how these Officers lit up a drug king pin we would all be lining up to buy them a beer.

    Someone screwed the pooch and it probably wasn't just the men who pulled the triggers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    The inference that the equipment or tactics they use constitutes the equivalence of military force is a very dangerous position to take. It directly relates back to controlling firearms or gear based on it's military affiliation.
    No it doesn't.

    The purpose and spirit of Posse Comitatus is prevent the military from also becoming the police like it is in so many less than free countries. So yes, using military equipment and tactics does violate the spirit of Posse Comitatus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    No it doesn't.

    The purpose and spirit of Posse Comitatus is prevent the military from also becoming the police like it is in so many less than free countries. So yes, using military equipment and tactics does violate the spirit of Posse Comitatus.

    Can you cite something, other than your opinion, that agrees with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    No it doesn't.

    The purpose and spirit of Posse Comitatus is prevent the military from also becoming the police like it is in so many less than free countries. So yes, using military equipment and tactics does violate the spirit of Posse Comitatus.
    To Back up SA on this............

    What defines military Equipment and Tactics in use by police in YOUR opinion?

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    Lots of you guys must have either been there, seen all the evidence in the matter or have been a Law Enforcement Officer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevDen2005 View Post
    Can you cite something, other than your opinion, that agrees with that?

    LOL <----- that's me laughing out loud. at your comment.

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