Just went and checked.... turns out we bought the rifle in December. Damn, didn't think it'd been that long.


Quote Originally Posted by bobbyfairbanks View Post
It seems you are going to have to ask him for your stuff back and cover his money into it or ask him for your money back. What if he says no then what; steal it back from him by breaking into his house? If he doesn't want to talk to you maybe there is something else going on and he is embarrassed.

LEO please do not take offense.

LEO are not lawyers and cannot offer legal advice. In a lot of cases they give wrong advice from lack of understanding of the law or complete ignorance of the law. That is why LEO Officers will tell you to ask a Attorney not one of them.

If you feel the need to do something just try talking to the guy and give him a out that will allow him to save face.
I HAVE tried asking him for the money/rifle, I HAVE tried working with him, I HAVE tried giving him an easy way out.... I went over all that in the original post. I've tried all of the obvious stuff, I posted here cause I need outside opinions.
And no, I don't plan on stealing it back. I think I came up with a good plan that'll let me get a hold of the rifle easily and legally (insomnia has its benefits). But I'd still like a LEO's thoughts.
Oh and on that note, I know that a LEO may not completely understand a given law and I'm not looking for legal advice. I'm just asking for suggestions from someone that may have experience with similar situations and knows how to operate well within the law.


Quote Originally Posted by AR_ART View Post
I learned a long time ago to NOT lend money to friends. I also learned that friends don't ask friends for loans either...

As others have stated there isn't much you can do. Your buddy will have to either handover the stuff or pay you. Its purely up to him.
Yeah, well, lesson learned, no more helping friends when they ask. Its a damn sad world we live in.
But no, I don't think its purely up to him. He may be in possession of the actual rifle (for now), but we BOTH have money into this, and he ain't the only one that knows how to play hardball. If my plan works out, he'll have his money back out of it and I'll be able to sell the rifle and get my share back too.... I don't care what he thinks about it anymore, that's the only way I see to make this a win-win.