Police State 4A Dead!

[Zundfolge]

... I can see already the anti-police BS is already starting...

I'm probably one of those that would get labeled a "cop basher" around here and even I can see how rulings like this actually make the lives of cops HARDER and not easier.

...even though probably all the LEO's are gonna be thinking the same thing the non-LEO's are.

Well lets hope they're more vocal in their opposition to this ruling. While I agree that the vast majority of cops aren't going to like it any more than we do, there is still always a contingent that sees the constitution as an impediment (and those guys make it that much harder for the good cops).

[CMP_5.56]

I hope people don't take this as an anti cop thread. It's not, it is an anti lawmaker thread. This is a blatant case of lawmakers abusing their power. And wiping their ass with the Constitution.

[KevDen2005]

I hope people don't take this as an anti cop thread. It's not, it is an anti lawmaker thread. This is a blatant case of lawmakers abusing their power. And wiping their ass with the Constitution.

I think the implications are even more than that...the branch of government that is supposed to interpret the right or wrong of something acted as a legislature, which is why this needs to go to the US Supreme Court

[rockhound]

the ruling is off, but i have to say that the incident that spurred it on was also off.

if the police officer is there to investigate a domestic violence complaint there is no way they are going to take the husbands word that the wife is ok and doesn't need their help.

in that instance i would say the cop is in the right to enter the home.

now no defense against any entry by LEO is way off.

[KevDen2005]

the ruling is off, but i have to say that the incident that spurred it on was also off.

if the police officer is there to investigate a domestic violence complaint there is no way they are going to take the husbands word that the wife is ok and doesn't need their help.

in that instance i would say the cop is in the right to enter the home.

now no defense against any entry by LEO is way off.

I see what you are saying and given very little information, the officer could have entered upon exigent circumstances, even if only in the entry way to check the welfare of both parties, then left without causing further problems, but for some reason the court ruled that is was okay for officers to enter no-matter what and if they are wrong just fight it in court later...I disagree with that notion.

[Byte Stryke]

In before cop-bashing thread locked.

[OneGuy67]

I see what you are saying and given very little information, the officer could have entered upon exigent circumstances, even if only in the entry way to check the welfare of both parties, then left without causing further problems, but for some reason the court ruled that is was okay for officers to enter no-matter what and if they are wrong just fight it in court later...I disagree with that notion.

Yep!

[theGinsue]

I hope people don't take this as an anti cop thread. It's not, it is an anti lawmaker thread. This is a blatant case of lawmakers abusing their power. And wiping their ass with the Constitution.

I think the implications are even more than that...the branch of government that is supposed to interpret the right or wrong of something acted as a legislature, which is why this needs to go to the US Supreme Court

OneGuy & KevDen are right. Remember we have 3 branches of government: Executive (to apply the laws), Legislative (to make the laws), and the Judicial (to interpret laws and provide for justice [to state this ultra simply: determine guilt or innocence and ensure RIGHTS are not violated in the process]).

Law Enforcement falls under the Executive branch. THANK HEAVENS this branch isn't part of THIS discussion.

The courts are part of the Judicial system are are NOT supposed to be legislating from the bench. But, this is exactly what they've done in this case.

the ruling is off, but i have to say that the incident that spurred it on was also off.

if the police officer is there to investigate a domestic violence complaint there is no way they are going to take the husbands word that the wife is ok and doesn't need their help.

in that instance i would say the cop is in the right to enter the home.

now no defense against any entry by LEO is way off.

As KevDen stated/implied, the fact that this ruling specifically says citizens have "no right to resist unlawful police entry into their homes" is the biggest crux here. Unlawful is the key. I can't see this standing and not getting stuck dow by the U.S. Court of Appeals. If it does, liberty is truly dead.

[spyder]

Wow! Not a single crazy sh#&bird in this thread stating you shouldn't be upset, if you have nothing to hide.

you guys need to cut this anti cop spew.

if you have nothing to hide you should welcome them in and thank them for their service.

and if you don't want them in your home then, well... you must have something to hide.

Well I'm glad you two are ok with having no personal space. I for one am glad that a law enforcement officer cannot invade my space without a very good reason and in most cases, a warrant. I don't have anything to hide, but my space is plain and simply black and white, my space call it greed or whatever you want, but come into my house uninvited and you're in trouble.

All I'm going to say is that I think it is a really bad ruling by the Indian Supreme Court and I have no doubt, giving the implications of the ruling, the dissenting opinions, and the precedent of case law before it that this will be appealed. I certainly don't agree with the ruling at all.

As for Colorado (and I would assume other states as well) there are really specific guidelines that an officer must follow before entering a home without a warrant and in many of those cases a warrant will still be needed.

That's all I have to say on that because I can see already the anti-police BS is already starting, even though probably all the LEO's are gonna be thinking the same thing the non-LEO's are.

Unfortunately the cops there are going to be hated even more for the stupid ruling. That sucks because I am guessing that most of the cops there think it is a stupid rule also.

In before cop-bashing thread locked.

I just thought this was funny.

[Zundfolge]

Originally Posted by Elhuero
you guys need to cut this anti cop spew.

if you have nothing to hide you should welcome them in and thank them for their service.

and if you don't want them in your home then, well... you must have something to hide.

Well I'm glad you two are ok with having no personal space.

Spyder, you should probably go read this.