These are hot subjects- I understand the 2 guys who are standing opposite each other arguing heatedly- when they actually believe much the same thing. I never take a conversation like this personally, unless another makes it personal. I too am terribly frustrated by our gov't. I think it will be (will be because it is going to happen) insane to raise the debt ceilling. Can we as citizens do that- NO. Force me to purchase health care insurance from the gov't? NO. Further intrude into my personal life? NO. Tell me I cannot smoke in my own home? (not a smoker) NO. Tell me what kind of vehicle I can drive partially by raising the cost of gas? NO. I can go on forever.