Where can I get Ron Paul stickers today?

[bryjcom]

Wow!! I am truly disappointed in my fellow members here!!

Keep saying he's unelectable yet we keep electing all these ass hat republicans that don't do anything different. Do you guys think that way because Bill O'reilly told you so? Do you guys think this because Shaun Hannity told you so? What about Fox News? Did they tell you, or how about the national media? Did they say that you will be wasting your vote???

Let me ask you guys a few questions-

Do you think Newt Gingrich, with his third wife that he had an affair with on his second wife is going to win against Obama with his Billion $$$ campaign fund??

Do you think Mitt Romney, with his Obama style health care and his liberal policies are going to win against Obama with his Billion $$$ campaign fund???

Do you think that any of the other "same old" Grand Old Party candidates are going to win against Obama with his Billion $$$ campaign fund?



The only person thats going win against Obama and his Billion $$$ campaign fund is a person that is not like the rest of the "Good Ole' Boys"

That person is Ron Paul.

You guys keep thinking this way and we will see another 4 years of Obongo, and by any chance that a republican does get in the white house, it will be no different than Obama. We have had democrat and republican presidents for a long, long time and we have been traveling on the progressive steam engine for a long, long time.


Its time to wake up!

[sneakerd]

I am actually quite awake thank you. Putting your response/argument in bold red and/or black changes nothing. I'll put my 3rd gen Colt 44-40 SAA in a (sorry) left handed Bachman (Old West Repro) fully-tooled holster as on the cover of "Packing Iron" up against any equal collateral. I'll put right here in print the SN and any other info you want- one for one. Neither Ron or Rand Paul will be the GOP candidate for President in 2012. You hard-line absolutist Libertarians put your money where your mouth is- right here, right now. I challenge any of you.

[Hoosier]

I am actually quite awake thank you. Putting your response/argument in bold red and/or black changes nothing. I'll put my 3rd gen Colt 44-40 SAA in a (sorry) left handed Bachman (Old West Repro) fully-tooled holster as on the cover of "Packing Iron" up against any equal collateral. I'll put right here in print the SN and any other info you want- one for one. Neither Ron or Rand Paul will be the GOP candidate for President in 2012. You hard-line absolutist Libertarians put your money where your mouth is- right here, right now. I challenge any of you.

I wouldn't take that bet. But unless or until the GOP fields a better candidate, I'm going to support Paul for the nomination. I don't agree with his stance in several areas either, but most of what he says IS "change I can believe in." Someone who understands the 10th amendment, at least.

He's not running as a third party candidate, he's running for the GOP. I'm hoping he gets the nod. However I bet we'll be left with some crappy candidate who simply panders to the far right wing base to win the nomination, then stands no chance against Obama.

H.

[gcrookston]

...You hard-line absolutist Libertarians put your money where your mouth is- right here, right now. I challenge any of you.

absolutist and Libertarian are diametrically apposed. But we have a lot of arm chair absolutists on this forum, and not many true Libertarians. Bethatasitmay, we won't see the Paul boys get too far if they have to answer for their records or have to account for their integrity. Mitt's a fiscal conservative, but he's got some interesting socialist ideas that won't fly. I quite like Huckabee, but he can't get any money behind him (too honest a guy), and he recognizes that and won't run. Trump is a self aggrandizing lampoon of a success and a serial bankrupt (of course, if the country needs a guy that knows how to dodge creditors, he might just qualify).

Guess this leaves Sara Palin's daughter. I mean, since she had her cosmetic surgery she's looking pretty hot. How many kids you know her age that have been able to sock away a few million? Speaking of age, we'll just get the birthers to come up with a birth certificate showing she's a hot 45 something. It's about time they contribute concrete something to the little circus they run....

[Bitter Clinger]

Anyone here know of rick Scott of Florida? I don't know much about him yet but I've heard his name ( in GOOD context) quite a few times.

[bryjcom]

I am actually quite awake thank you. Putting your response/argument in bold red and/or black changes nothing. I'll put my 3rd gen Colt 44-40 SAA in a (sorry) left handed Bachman (Old West Repro) fully-tooled holster as on the cover of "Packing Iron" up against any equal collateral. I'll put right here in print the SN and any other info you want- one for one. Neither Ron or Rand Paul will be the GOP candidate for President in 2012. You hard-line absolutist Libertarians put your money where your mouth is- right here, right now. I challenge any of you.

I wasn't trying to direct my post to you in particular. I just get frustrated with the "He doesn't stand a chance" argument. Question is WHY doesn't he stand a chance? Because the mainstream media says so? The mainstream media doesn't vote in the primaries, we do. So if you want to just right him off then go right ahead. I'm well aware of the chances of his GOP nod. I'm sure he is also. In my opinion he is doing it more to promote the ideals of liberty and change the course of the debate.


The fact is we can't afford another standard/progressive republican president any more then we can afford another democratic socialist.

So, what is a conservative to do? Just go with the same old shit or should we actually get some change for once?

When I voted for Paul in the '08 primaries we had a couple stand up and declare their support for Mitt Romney because, " he is the most conservative candidate that stands a chance of winning" They just basically wrote off Ron Paul because his views are not "ordained" by the establishment media. Just a bunch of "sleeping" people that let other people decide who is "qualified" to run their corporate welfare government............

Lets just hope that this time people actually vote for the most conservative candidate this time , because this country will be no more in another 4 years......Hell, it may already be to late.......

[sneakerd]

Just an FYI that'll probably get me all beat up- In the current GOP line-up, I'll take Newt Gingrich. With all of his thaws and issues, he's the smartest guy up there and I'll take that guy, who is one hell of a historian, not likely to ignore or repeat historical mistakes of the past. Also keep in mind, that I consider all of this a good-natured argument between friends.

[sneakerd]

Also, I don't think the lamestream media will cover Paul enough for anyone unfamiliar with his viewpoint to have any real idea where he stands.

[Rust_shackleford]

Yes Global Warming Newt

Just an FYI that'll probably get me all beat up- In the current GOP line-up, I'll take Newt Gingrich. With all of his thaws and issues, he's the smartest guy up there and I'll take that guy, who is one hell of a historian, not likely to ignore or repeat historical mistakes of the past. Also keep in mind, that I consider all of this a good-natured argument between friends.

[sneakerd]

Yup-ok, I just learned something about Newt I don't agree with. Found the Utube vid of him "debating" with John "3 bullshit Purple Hearts" Kerry.
He still speaks pretty logically if you listen to the whole thing. Kerry is stuck standing there just listening as the smarter guy speaks.