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    Why don't you educate yourself before makeing and ignorant statement?? You don't have a clue about anything you just said so don't expect me to explain it. If you don't know ask if you think you know and make a fool of your self that is not my problem.
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    this bill was killed in comitee over the previous weeks


    http://coloradoshooting.org/v-web/bu...pic.php?t=3580

    But i have no idea what i'm talking about do i?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulf202
    this bill was killed in comitee over the previous weeks


    http://coloradoshooting.org/v-web/bu...pic.php?t=3580

    But i have no idea what i'm talking about do i?
    Your right you have no point what is law is law get over it. :roll:
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    What? Glockmaster asked about "castle doctrine" law. You quoted the 20 year old "make my day" law.

    I mearley said that they're not the same.

    I beleive the one he was asking about is the
    HB06-1246, the Castle Doctrine/Stand Your Ground Act

    And you attack me and call me ignorant?

    You sir need to take a step back, and re-read this once you've cooled down. Start at the link i posted above. For a moderator you show poor self control.

    My point was that castle doctrine would have been great, but it was killed in commitee. I was wrong, it was in february.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulf202
    What? Glockmaster asked about "castle doctrine" law. You quoted the 20 year old "make my day" law.

    I mearley said that they're not the same.

    I beleive the one he was asking about is the
    HB06-1246, the Castle Doctrine/Stand Your Ground Act

    And you attack me and call me ignorant?

    You sir need to take a step back, and re-read this once you've cooled down. Start at the link i posted above. For a moderator you show poor self control.

    My point was that castle doctrine would have been great, but it was killed in commitee. I was wrong, it was in february.
    No you made an ignorant statement plain and simple the Make my day law is the CO castle doctrine. You may not agree with it but IT IS THE CASTLE DOCTRINE. You have no point other than the fact you don't agree with it so there for you claim it does not exist. I am simply pointing out it does exist and that is a FACT.

    Next thing you should do is take a reading comprehension class he asked if Co had a law like the one just passed in Alaska. The only difference between CO and AK is that in AK it applies to ones business. CO only applies to ones home.

    I guess I should show self control and let you fill everyone full of BS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HunterCO
    No you made an ignorant statement plain and simple the Make my day law is the CO castle doctrine. You may not agree with it but IT IS THE CASTLE DOCTRINE. You have no point other than the fact you don't agree with it so there for you claim it does not exist. I am simply pointing out it does exist and that is a FACT.


    "The rationale for the law is fairly straight-forward: people have a right to defend themselves and their loved ones against criminals who break into their homes."
    "The "Make My Day" law expands the protection of those who exercise self-defense within their homes. Under the law, people who defend themselves are exempted from criminal as well as civil liability. The law now resides in the Colorado statute books as 18-1-704.5"
    http://www.freecolorado.com/2003/04/makemyday.html


    I'm not debating the make my day law, it's existance, legalities or anything like that.

    HB06-1246, the Castle Doctrine/Stand Your Ground Act Read about it here;
    http://www.nraila.org/CurrentLegisla...d.aspx?ID=1959
    http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics2006...le=1246_01.pdf

    EXPANDS the make my day law, if you care to read the bill.

    Quote Originally Posted by HunterCO

    Next thing you should do is take a reading comprehension class he asked if Co had a law like the one just passed in Alaska. The only difference between CO and AK is that in AK it applies to ones business. CO only applies to ones home.
    Quote Originally Posted by glockmaster
    I read alot of stuff about other states bringing into law a Castle Doctrine, my question is does Colorado have a similar law that does not require you to retreat if you are in a situation that requires you to defend yourself? Or do you have to do all you can to get away form the situation?
    He said other states, not specifically alaska. From my searching i found there to be 18+ states with Castle Doctrine.

    Quote Originally Posted by HunterCO
    I guess I should show self control and let you fill everyone full of BS.
    What am i saying that's BS?

    I'm quoting direct sources, with links and offering to listen to your explination, asking for you to inform me of what i'm wrong about and you respond with insulting, and inflamitory remarks.

    THE REAL POINT:

    Maybe we're merely arguing over definitions and technicalities??

    The "make my day" law is the only LAW we have concerning duty to retreat. You are very right about that, and i've NEVER tried to say that it wasn't a law, or wasn't real. It may fall under the class of Castle doctrine in your eyes?

    the Castle Doctrine/Stand Your Ground Act was the title of a BILL killed quietly in comittee, it did not recieve much press. I was trying to bring to Glockmaster's attention the definitions and possible expansion of the "make my day" law by the CASTLE DOCTRINE BILL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulf202
    Quote Originally Posted by HunterCO
    No you made an ignorant statement plain and simple the Make my day law is the CO castle doctrine. You may not agree with it but IT IS THE CASTLE DOCTRINE. You have no point other than the fact you don't agree with it so there for you claim it does not exist. I am simply pointing out it does exist and that is a FACT.


    "The rationale for the law is fairly straight-forward: people have a right to defend themselves and their loved ones against criminals who break into their homes."
    "The "Make My Day" law expands the protection of those who exercise self-defense within their homes. Under the law, people who defend themselves are exempted from criminal as well as civil liability. The law now resides in the Colorado statute books as 18-1-704.5"
    http://www.freecolorado.com/2003/04/makemyday.html


    I'm not debating the make my day law, it's existance, legalities or anything like that.

    HB06-1246, the Castle Doctrine/Stand Your Ground Act Read about it here;
    http://www.nraila.org/CurrentLegisla...d.aspx?ID=1959
    http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics2006...le=1246_01.pdf

    EXPANDS the make my day law, if you care to read the bill.

    Quote Originally Posted by HunterCO

    Next thing you should do is take a reading comprehension class he asked if Co had a law like the one just passed in Alaska. The only difference between CO and AK is that in AK it applies to ones business. CO only applies to ones home.
    Quote Originally Posted by glockmaster
    I read alot of stuff about other states bringing into law a Castle Doctrine, my question is does Colorado have a similar law that does not require you to retreat if you are in a situation that requires you to defend yourself? Or do you have to do all you can to get away form the situation?
    He said other states, not specifically alaska. From my searching i found there to be 18+ states with Castle Doctrine.

    Quote Originally Posted by HunterCO
    I guess I should show self control and let you fill everyone full of BS.
    What am i saying that's BS?

    I'm quoting direct sources, with links and offering to listen to your explination, asking for you to inform me of what i'm wrong about and you respond with insulting, and inflamitory remarks.

    THE REAL POINT:

    Maybe we're merely arguing over definitions and technicalities??

    The "make my day" law is the only LAW we have concerning duty to retreat. You are very right about that, and i've NEVER tried to say that it wasn't a law, or wasn't real. It may fall under the class of Castle doctrine in your eyes?

    the Castle Doctrine/Stand Your Ground Act was the title of a BILL killed quietly in comittee, it did not recieve much press. I was trying to bring to Glockmaster's attention the definitions and possible expansion of the "make my day" law by the CASTLE DOCTRINE BILL.
    So to make a long story short the "Make my day law" Is the Castle Doctrine and you have proven you have no idea what the hell your talking about. Enough said [buck]
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    Well, it's clear that your set on insulting me for no reason and cannot have a debate about a law. You refuse to bring up facts, and attack me personally when i do.

    I even offer an out, by saying we are probably arguing technicalities and definitions, and you still choose to insult rather than say anything constructive.

    I am ashamed that i was drug into this by you, and others will be able to form their own opinion.

    To Glockmaster, i opologize for turning this into an argument between HunterCO and myself, i hope you atleast got some useful answer to your question here.

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    One little note, about the part you said about it not applying to a business. That's not true. The law never said either way, but the courts have ruled that it not only applies to your business, but also your car. Legal precedance is just as much law as the statute itself. You have the right to defend yourself, at home, work, and in your car. Karl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HunterCO
    Yes it is called the "Make my day law".

    18-1-704.5 Use Of Deadly Physical Force Against An Intruder (“Make My Day law”)

    1. The general assembly hereby recognizes that the citizens of Colorado have a right to expect absolute safety within their own homes.
    Notice the word HOME not business yes everybody has the right to defend themselves any place. I am talking about CO's castle doctrine not the self defense statues. Which Wulf202 for some unknown reason thinks it is not a casltle doctrine. When it in fact 100% is the CO castle doctrine.
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