Another fine speech

[roberth]

Obama is an idiot. He just sided with the folks who cheered when 3000 innocent lives were stolen on 9/11/2001.



Obama sided with people who value death more than life.

[Hoosier]

Obama is an idiot. He just sided with the folks who cheered when 3000 innocent lives were stolen on 9/11/2001.



Obama sided with people who value death more than life.

Both sides are guilty of this, and much more:

[HBARleatherneck]

i can allways count on you.

[TFOGGER]

I blame Moses...If he'd turned left instead of right, we Jews would have got the oil, and the Arabs would have got the sand....

[roberth]

Both sides are guilty of this, and much more:

Funny, I don't hear about Israeli homicide bombers running into Palestinian markets and murdering women and children.

I don't hear about random rocket attacks by Israel on Palestinians. Israel responds to these attacks but Israel is rarely the instigator. If Israel instigates it is in response to an accumulation of things Hamas or Hezbollah did.

I don't hear about Israeli's taking Palestinian children hostage and then murdering them.

Only one side is guilty, the Palestinian terrorists. The only good Palestinian is a dead one.

[argonstrom]

Funny, I don't hear about Israeli homicide bombers running into Palestinian markets and murdering women and children.

I don't hear about random rocket attacks by Israel on Palestinians. Israel responds to these attacks but Israel is rarely the instigator. If Israel instigates it is in response to an accumulation of things Hamas or Hezbollah did.

I don't hear about Israeli's taking Palestinian children hostage and then murdering them.

Only one side is guilty, the Palestinian terrorists. The only good Palestinian is a dead one.

Truth.

[Hoosier]

Only one side is guilty, the Palestinian terrorists. The only good Palestinian is a dead one.

The logic here... if this logic is valid, then you're saying anytime enough people from one group do enough bad to another, they are all fair game. Right? Some Palestinians have killed Israelis, therefore all Palestinians should die.

Now if you're going to accept that logic as sound, can you think of ways it could be applied, from the perspective of other people, in a way that would make you unhappy?

For example, if some Iraqi had his entire family murdered by Americans, is he justified in applying this logic to think all Americans should die? It's the same logic set, just different actors.

Can you find a way to invalidate the logic such that you're OK with the concept regardless of the participants? If not, are you OK with logic that doesn't work in all scenarios?

BTW, it's called Collective Punishment and is a war crime. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_punishment

H.

[Tim K]

The logic here... if this logic is valid, then you're saying anytime enough people from one group do enough bad to another, they are all fair game. Right? Some Palestinians have killed Israelis, therefore all Palestinians should die.

Winner! You win the award for the dumbest thing I've read today.

No one, and I mean no one, not here in the states nor in Israel, is suggesting that all Palestinians should die. Where did you get such a muddleheaded idea? If the Arabs would leave Israel alone, they would sit quietly and enjoy the land they carved from the desert. Every war Israel has fought has been a defensive war, they are not aggressors. All they want is to be left alone in peace.

[Hoosier]

Winner! You win the award for the dumbest thing I've read today.

I totally agree, that's also the stupidest thing I read all day. I didn't say it, I'm quoting roberth in post #15 in this thread. That logic breaks my head, and I wanted to understand how someone would say it. Perhaps he was being flippant.

H.