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    Quote Originally Posted by fitz19d View Post
    Read closer, not sure about horsetooth, but iirc, that is the exact place this guy won his open carry lawsuit.

    Wasn't clear in post but I'm sure you know, for concealed you do need a permit.


    If state law superseded local law, then you could ccw in Denver. But you can't they have a local ordinance against ccw, ...
    Not really relevant to this thread, but you are incorrect.
    State Law: CRS 18-12-201

    states:

    (1) The general assembly finds that:








    (a) There exists a widespread inconsistency among jurisdictions within the state with regard to the issuance of permits to carry concealed handguns and identification of areas of the state where it is lawful to carry concealed handguns;








    (b) This inconsistency among jurisdictions creates public uncertainty regarding the areas of the state in which it is lawful to carry concealed handguns;








    (c) Inconsistency results in the arbitrary and capricious denial of permits to carry concealed handguns based on the jurisdiction of residence rather than the qualifications for obtaining a permit;








    (d) The criteria and procedures for the lawful carrying of concealed handguns historically has been regulated by state statute and should be consistent throughout the state to ensure the consistent implementation of state law; and








    (e) It is necessary that the state occupy the field of regulation of the bearing of concealed handguns since the issuance of a concealed handgun permit is based on a person's constitutional right of self-protection and there is a prevailing state interest in ensuring that no citizen is arbitrarily denied a concealed handgun permit and in ensuring that the laws controlling the use of the permit are consistent throughout the state.








    (2) Based on the findings specified in subsection (1) of this section, the general assembly hereby concludes that:








    (a) The permitting and carrying of concealed handguns is a matter of statewide concern; and








    (b) It is necessary to provide statewide uniform standards for issuing permits to carry concealed handguns for self-defense.








    (3) In accordance with the findings and conclusions specified in subsections (1) and (2) of this section, the general assembly hereby instructs each sheriff to implement and administer the provisions of this part 2. The general assembly does not delegate to the sheriffs the authority to regulate or restrict the issuance of permits provided for in this part 2 beyond the provisions of this part 2. An action or rule that encumbers the permit process by placing burdens on the applicant beyond those sworn statements and specified documents detailed in this part 2 or that creates restrictions beyond those specified in this part 2 is in conflict with the intent of this part 2 and is prohibited.






    And CRS18-12-204 states in part:

    (b) A permit is valid for a period of five years after the date of issuance and may be renewed as provided in section 18-12-211. A permit issued pursuant to this part 2, including a temporary emergency permit issued pursuant to section 18-12-209, is effective in all areas of the state, except as otherwise provided in section 18-12-214.
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    @ Tfogger, you're right, I did have part mixed up. However, I'm still sticking with Denver cops/Denver County/city whatever still does not like/bans ccw. @ work, but will hunt down that info about how they are in violation/ignoring state pre-emption. (Was that decision like 7-10 years back where couple judges recused themselves, so it ended up tied in the state courts.) Maybe it changed within the last 2 years, but the info I was given from multiple sources, ccw class, and again opencarry.org was that Denver was doing it's own thing regardless of state constitution and pre-emption.

    @TheEnd, unfortunately I work wierd hours and I have Tues/Wednesdays as my weekend. Once in a rare while I'll try to make early morning trips in which I have to be back to down by 2, 3 at the absolute latest. If you ever wind up with something in that time range feel free to hit me up. I'm itching to shoot on my boss's land after all this damnable rain.

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