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    They certainly let that siren go off nice and loud.
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    yeah I heard the sirens that sounded like a car alarm, but I didn't hear anyone say "Police!"

    did I just miss it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    yeah I heard the sirens that sounded like a car alarm, but I didn't hear anyone say "Police!"

    did I just miss it?
    Yep, they did a knock & announce. Hard to refute the video...they id's themselves as police + rifle pointed at them = dead guy. We can onlly speculate on his intent but it looks like the PD was doing their job IAW their SOP (Standard Operating Procedures). Shame, I guarantee you none of the officers wanted to pull truggers that day. None of them do. They were put in a tough situitation where they had to make a decision regarding their life or someone else's, instantly. Tough spot to be in. They will most likely be covered by Graham vs. Connor.

    Either way, it was a bad day for all involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    yeah I heard the sirens that sounded like a car alarm, but I didn't hear anyone say "Police!"

    did I just miss it?
    Video was shot from inside a closed car, so the voices are very muffled. You can hear the siren loudly as presumably it's from the car the video was shot in. Probably a Suburban. And it appears they used a flashbang, which means anything after the bang on wouldn't have been heard.

    IMHO cameras are small, lightweight, and cheap enough now that it should be required on every (issued) helmet and gun. All that video goes to court as evidence. The idea that storming in the best way to serve a warrant is crazytown.

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    I'm still waiting to her what illegal things they found, cause at this time they haven't found shit.

    Just because the blow the sirens doesn't mean anything. Like his wife said, she woke him up because people were out side. Probably didn't hear the sirens and went and got his gun. Probably when he figured out it was the cops, they just opened fired because he had a gun.

    Cops screwed up big time in my opinion

    I'm willing to bet all they had to do was knock on the door and talk to him...but then again they got to justify their budget and training somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    Yep, they did a knock & announce. Hard to refute the video...they id's themselves as police + rifle pointed at them = dead guy. We can onlly speculate on his intent but it looks like the PD was doing their job IAW their SOP (Standard Operating Procedures). Shame, I guarantee you none of the officers wanted to pull truggers that day. None of them do. They were put in a tough situitation where they had to make a decision regarding their life or someone else's, instantly. Tough spot to be in. They will most likely be covered by Graham vs. Connor.

    Either way, it was a bad day for all involved.

    What evidence do you have that they anounced they were police?? Not disputing you just asking.... cause you can't hear it in the video

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    Yep, they did a knock & announce.
    8 seconds of sirens followed by "bang, bang, bang"
    17 more seconds of yelling and then kicking in the door
    8 more seconds before shots are fired
    11 seconds of shots being fired
    44 seconds from sirens to death

    26 seconds to open the door

    Not to mention "Vanessa Guerena didn't know the men were SWAT officers and thought they might be home invaders, especially because two members of her sister-in-law's family were killed last year in their Tucson home"


    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    Shame, I guarantee you none of the officers wanted to pull truggers that day.
    Did you notice that one officer that was far from the door runs up just to get a few shots off? Basically joining the other 5 or 6 officers who stopped in the funnel, possibly shooting over the heads of his teammates, doubtful if he was sure of what was downrange.


    Quote Originally Posted by bryjcom View Post
    I'm still waiting to her what illegal things they found, cause at this time they haven't found shit.
    "Many guns" were found in the house, including the AR15 that Guerena was holding, another rifle, and a handgun. Body armor was also found and a U.S. Border Patrol hat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobat555 View Post



    Did you notice that one officer that was far from the door runs up just to get a few shots off? Basically joining the other 5 or 6 officers who stopped in the funnel, possibly shooting over the heads of his teammates, doubtful if he was sure of what was downrange.




    "Many guns" were found in the house, including the AR15 that Guerena was holding, another rifle, and a handgun. Body armor was also found and a U.S. Border Patrol hat.

    Yeah I noticed that idiot cop in the back that just wanted to say he got a few shots in. He should disciplined at a minimum just for that.

    Last I checked "many guns" were not illegal. If they are then 90% of the members here are commiting crimes.

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    http://abcnews.go.com/US/swat-team-g...ry?id=13702756

    "The SWAT guys are pretty hurt and confused because normally there's great support for them in this community," Storie said and predicted that their actions will ultimately be found to have been justified
    What an asshole!! That attorney for the cops is the most arrogant POS I have ever seen. They all shoot a guy and they are "hurt"

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