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    Fleeing Idaho to get IKEA Bailey Guns's Avatar
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    That's the purpose of a holster...to protect the firearm. Leave it in the holster, secure it somewhere and there's no need to clear it. People do this all the time while carrying concealed for purposes of leaving the gun in a car, going to the bathroom, etc.... Cops do it every day, too, when they need to take care of business. This is all assuming you have a proper holster that secures the gun.

    You asked for opinions, I gave you one. Nobody's getting defensive.

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    (1) A person commits the crime of menacing if, by any threat or physical action, he or she knowingly places or attempts to place another person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury. Menacing is a class 3 misdemeanor, but, it is a class 5 felony if committed:
    (a) By the use of a deadly weapon or any article used or fashioned in a manner to cause a person to reasonably believe that the article is a deadly weapon; or
    (b) By the person representing verbally or otherwise that he or she is armed with a deadly weapon.

    The other potential offense would be Prohibited Use of a Weapon. That applies if you unlawfully aim a firearm at another person. Also a misdemeanor. For the menacing offense, you'd have to knowingly try to put someone in fear of serious injury. If you go to your car and discreetly remove the gun (preferably in the holster, IMO) it would be pretty hard to make a case for either offense.

    Of course, stranger things have happened.
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    Buffalo Wild Wings restaurants are known for not allowing firearms on the premises.

    Here's what they sent to someone who complained:
    “Buffalo Wild Wings respects the right of individuals to carry firearms but we do not believe they are appropriate inside of a public restaurant. We are focused on the comfort, safety and enjoyment of all of our guests and have elected to exercise our right to restrict the carrying of firearms in our restaurants. We regret any inconvenience this may cause but believe that this policy is in the best interest of all of our guests and our Team Members.”
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    Gun Free zone anyone?





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    ^^ No shit. I think I'll avoid BWW in the future. They obviously have enough customers to make their business work.
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    I'm definitely going to avoid BWW in the future as well.

    no guns = no money

    I still won't leave a loaded firearm anywhere but within my immediate vicinity, holster or no.....

    I agree with the sign, Byte.

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    I don't OC, but I've managed to fatten myself up quite well without ever having set foot in a BWW, thankyouverymuch. Don't see any reason to start now.

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    Willy's wings in Morrison is better any way

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    Personally he is the ultimate say as to what goes on in his establishment and you could have complied with his wishes by leaving. It would seem to me you have experience with places that have not had issues with it as well.

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    [Rant on] I gotta' admit to being personally troubled every time an issue like this comes up. While I am zealous for the 2nd amendment, and always carry myself, I have real problems with people who open carry. Let me just say that this is my own thoughtful opinion, formed after many years of carrying and paying close attention to the political and social issues involved, and nothing else and so I am ready to be flamed for it.
    Here are my problems. First, I admit that if I am sitting in a restaurant with my family and some dude walks in open carrying, I immediately begin to feel uncomfortable...even though I am carrying myself (concealed). Why would I be suspicious and uncomfortable with another gun owner? Because it just seems like wayyyy too often, people who open carry are the kind of people who need to feel big and important and feared and are extremely needy for attention. And the very prominent and visible gun is their way of accomplishing all of that and getting their own personal needs met. And I worry about people like that, weak and insecure people in many cases, having guns to readily flash around...and to use. If you told me, while I was sitting at the restaurant, that 20 other guys in the place were carrying concealed it wouldn't bother me a bit. But one guy strutting in with his gun flashing on his hip and I go to condition high alert....
    Second, because open carrying is so much more likely to provoke an incident of some type or another, whether with management, customers, or police. Why run around provoking people and incidents? What is it in a gun owner which would make him want to provoke bad feelings and confrontations in public over guns? This is a war which is already lost in the U.S. No one is going to "educate" the public by wearing a gun openly, they are only going to alienate the public. Why do that?
    Third, because this guy has taken it upon himself to represent me and all other gun carriers without my permission. Everything he does will be watched, analyzed, and criticized by everyone within sight. When he provokes a confrontation (as he surely will even if his behavior is very modest and absolutely righteous) his every move and every word during that confrontation will be further scrutinized and attacked. As a gun owner, as a member of a class which is under tremendous disapproval and prejudice in society already, I don't want you representing me out there by open carrying. I don't want your stupidity, your drunkenness, or even your innocent mistakes or words said unwisely in the heat of the moment, to tar and feather me and all our colleagues who love and promote the 2nd amendment. You don't have my permission to represent me by open carrying! So when I hear (as is almost inevitable) that someone open carrying has had another incident, I shudder and then shake my head...and wait for the fall-out to happen. More prohibitions. More laws. More disapproval of the 2nd amendment. Why is it so hard to throw a shirt tail over your gun?
    Alright, rant over. I am ready to get pounded!
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    Quote Originally Posted by soco11 View Post
    Third, because this guy has taken it upon himself to represent me and all other gun carriers without my permission....You don't have my permission to represent me by open carrying!
    Please post your phone #, and I will be sure to call you for permission each time I am about to go out whilst open carrying.

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