Why do people have to make problems?

[Ronin13]

What a d-bag!

He should be happy that he dealt with a really polite PD, and not a pd that loves to baton people...

I agree with his cause, but at the end of the day it's not worth a night stick to the ass

Exactly... most cops I'm friends with get pretty irritated by people talking back and being rude, so they just sit back and remember every detail, the person's car, the person's name, etc. and when they mess up next time they don't have to let them off with a warning. Anything that can get a ticket the cop will remember how rude and obnoxious they were and just write it, usually they are pretty nice if the person is respectful and decent.

[Gcompact30]

Why the hell are they carrying guns at the beach anyway... Dumb Asses...... that is why we have it so hard with gun carry laws. It may be their right, but dam, not smart at all in this situation. At least that is just my 2-cents.... I personally would not want anyone to know I am carrying a firearm until I need them to know. Now I guess if there is a bag guy on the beach, the two idiots they see with guns will be shot first....... my 2-cents only.

[Byte Stryke]

I completely agree... we should hide in the shadows. Don't stand up for your constitutional rights, it will only cause problems.
The less people see people standing up for themselves, the less likely others will.


I give a fuck if they were at a nude beach wearing ONLY their sidearms...
IT IS THEIR RIGHT

You have less of a right to drive your car than they do to carry.

[Gcompact30]

LOL nude beach

I completely agree... we should hide in the shadows. Don't stand up for your constitutional rights, it will only cause problems.
The less people see people standing up for themselves, the less likely others will.


I give a fuck if they were at a nude beach wearing ONLY their sidearms...
IT IS THEIR RIGHT

You have less of a right to drive your car than they do to carry.

[Irving]

Thread full of God damned collaborators. Sad.

[Byte Stryke]

Replace the word Gun with the word cellphone in this video.
both are equally legal to have in your possession.
Truth be told, you do not have a specific Constitutional RIGHT to have a cellphone... But you do have for a firearm.


So now replay that video in your head and you will see how stupid it really is for the cop to even have detained him as long as he did.




I Swear to God, one of these days I am calling the cops and reporting "Man with a cucumber sandwich!"

[cstone]

I Swear to God, one of these days I am calling the cops and reporting "Man with a cucumber sandwich!"

Byte - I'd like to report a man with a cucumber sandwich!

Dispatcher - What is he doing with it?

Byte - Eating it!

Dispatcher - Could you stand by at your present location. We will have an officer on scene make contact with you in approximately... four days. Thank you for waiting.

[Byte Stryke]

Byte - I'd like to report a man with a cucumber sandwich!

Dispatcher - What is he doing with it?

Byte - Eating it!

Dispatcher - Could you stand by at your present location. We will have an officer on scene make contact with you in approximately... four days. Thank you for waiting.

But as I am not British I am alarmed and scared.
he is using it in a threatening manner!

[RMAC757]

I gotta go with stryke on this. There's no law against being an a hole which this kid obviously is. If the cops have no legal reason to stop you, "confirming" your identity is just fishing.

[Ronin13]

I gotta go with stryke on this. There's no law against being an a hole which this kid obviously is. If the cops have no legal reason to stop you, "confirming" your identity is just fishing.

I've had something like that- Loitering in a "no no loitering" area (if there is no sign it's not illegal) waiting for a friend to show. The LEO pulled in, turned on his lights, we were just sitting on my bumper and the Deputy asked for mine and my friend's ID. Here's how it went:
JCSO Deputy: "May I see some ID?"
Me: "What for?"
JCSO: "So I may know who you are."
Me: "Have we broken any laws?"
JCSO: "No, but I would like to know who you are?"
Me: "Why do you need to know who I am? Is there a criminal or fugitive who matches my description?"
JCSO: "No, but sir I would like to see some ID."
Me: "Respectfully I do not wish to disclose that information if no crime has been committed."
JCSO: "Well, you sitting in this parking lot is suspicious activity and I would like to identify you to remove any unwarranted suspicion."
Me: "Sitting in a parking lot waiting for someone is suspicious? We aren't doing anything suspect, we're waiting for someone. How is us waiting in a well lit public place suspicious?"
JCSO: "Where are you going when your party arrives?"
Me: "No where that is of any concern to you."
JCSO: "Well I'd still like to see some identification, please."
Me: "I respectfully refuse to show you my ID."
Here's where it gets good, My Friend: [waving hand] "You don't need to see our IDs."
JCSO: [Struggling to hold back laughter] "Fine, you don't want to show your ID then I'll leave you to it. Have a nice night and be safe."
Me: "Thank you, Deputy. You be safe too."
That was that. Being nice, respectful, and your friend having a great sense of humor can easily defuse a potential harassment situation.