True HBAR, just different generations I guess. I mowed my lawn last night, I caught a few trout a couple weeks ago at Stanley, I have never hunted, I grew up with guns as well, but I do play video games also.
True HBAR, just different generations I guess. I mowed my lawn last night, I caught a few trout a couple weeks ago at Stanley, I have never hunted, I grew up with guns as well, but I do play video games also.
I didn't grow up with guns, love SciFi, play video games, don't smoke MJ. Played paintball up until I graduated high school. Guns are kind of a new thing for me. Everybody's different. I think its a good thing that more types of people own firearms, because that will break stereotypes and all Americans will win out in the end.
Do I agree that if you smoke MJ you shouldn't own guns? No, because I'd think if you drank alcohol you shouldn't own guns either going on the same standard.
Do I think you should lie on your 4473? No, its not worth it, especially if you're in a MMJ database.
It is kind of confusing, because it asks if you are an illegal user of Marijuana. Some people look at it and say, "No, I'm a registered medical marijuana user." but don't realize that is only for the state of CO, it is still illegal federally (which is who that form is for).
I think that question is a CYA question to help protect the dealers, manufacturers, and perhaps even the government. I really doubt that anyone actively looks at those questions and goes out of their way to make sure what you put down is true.
"There are no finger prints under water."
marijuana is still illegal under federal law. it is legal in CO, yes, but if obama hadn't told the feds to take a rest on the MMJ type stuff, you would see a lot of people with cards getting in trouble.
I could care less about weed. I don't smoke it, never have and probably never will. But for the people that want to, I think they should.
I am to the point I am tired of .gov control on the fed and state level, but especially on the fed level. if you don't like a states laws, you can move, but the fed covers them all and I frankly hate being told what I can and can't do when it isn't hurting anyone else. like the seatbelt law. not hurting anyone but myself if I don't wear it. for those who are in rescue and firefighting and want to complain about my mangled body...get another job because you chose the job and knew what it entailed.
as to you buddy, he needs to answer the form correctly and honestly, if the atf checked it, cross referenced his MMJ card and found out he lied...felony and no more guns for life plus fines and probably prison time.
Kind of the lesser of 2 evils in that situation.
This is a fun topic. Actually, I think it is kinda stupid. As stated previously, if you shouldn't be able to buy because you smoke marajuana, you shouldn't be able to buy if you drink either. Which effects you more, smoking, or drinking? The only reason why one is legal and the other isn't is just politics way back when. Alcohol is also a drug if you look up the definition of a drug. The same rules that apply to alcohol should apply to mj IMO. Should the guy lie on the paper? Nope, why put yourself in that position? Just think if he is high, and gets pulled over, or anything that brings the cops to him while he is in possession of a gun. He would be in deep shit because they would look up his last purchase, find out he lied on his paperwork, and then he would be screwed. Just not worth it to break the law.
If you make something idiot proof, someone will make a better idiot... Forget youth, what we need is a fountain of smart. There are no stupid questions, just a lot of inquisitive idiots.Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. --Isaac AsimovLike, where's spyder been? That guy was like, totally cool and stuff. - foxtrot
Why would the police look up his last gun purchase if he gets pulled over while high?
"There are no finger prints under water."
Agreed on the alcohol thing; it's a lot more destructive of a drug that pot to your body, your inhibitions and judgement, etc.
While I don't smoke it, and it's been years and years since I have, it should be legal IMO.
Back to what people were posting about, I guess I'm one of those "newer" types of gun people. I'm a libertarian, sleeved with tattoos, play video games, raised with guns, etc
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If you are high, and have a gun in your possession, you're in trouble. Then it is right on down the line of questions and shit. They will find out you have a card either because you tell them thinking it will help your case, or because they search your shit and find out. Then they look up your history and find out you recently purchased a gun having your mmj, then they find out you lied on your paperwork (of course this is all if the cops do their job I guess) and you now have a felony.
If you make something idiot proof, someone will make a better idiot... Forget youth, what we need is a fountain of smart. There are no stupid questions, just a lot of inquisitive idiots.Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. --Isaac AsimovLike, where's spyder been? That guy was like, totally cool and stuff. - foxtrot