Revenue generating black box mandatory in new cars

[Irving]

Here is an article about it. I haven't read it all yet.
I've also been hearing about some group fighting for transportation rights or something. I plan to look into both when I get some time. *Which may be never.*

http://www.examiner.com/finance-exam...-box-installed

[streetglideok]

Interesting, first I've heard of it actually being implemented. In one sense, driving isnt a right, it is a priviledge that is abused by people who dont know how to drive, or refuse to drive sanely. On the other hand, I dont like a police state, and shouldnt have babysitters on board. Morale of the story is, police ourselves, and we gain an arguement for not having them.

[Zundfolge]

Its not like I'll ever be able to afford to buy a car built after 2011, but now I have another reason not to want to.

[Irving]

Interesting, first I've heard of it actually being implemented. In one sense, driving isnt a right, it is a priviledge that is abused by people who dont know how to drive, or refuse to drive sanely.

Not true. Everything is a right, unless it is specifically made illegal by the placement of a law. This whole backwards thinking is why the country is where it is today. Transportation not a right? Bullshit.

I think that's why there are people trying to get transportation labeled as a right in the first place. People don't understand the Constitution, so everything has to have the label of "Right" on it, or else they think it is a privileged.

[sneakerd]

Ain't surprised it's coming. Great reason to keep and maintain my 2006 4Runner.

[Irving]

Yay Cap and Trade! Not.

[colocowboy01]

The State, the Government, the police can do anything they what to do with any vehicle we all drive. Vehicles are State owned property, therefore if they want to track you in their property that you have agreed to use they can. We all have to license and register every year that we have in our possession and are using the State's property. Try driving around without renewing the plates or tags, who comes and gets their property back from you? The State. It is the same concept as a User Agreement/Software License Agreement for software that you use on your computer. You do not own the software, the company that developed the software still owns the software, you just have paid the company to use their software and use it according to the rules that their have outlined in the User Agreement. The license plate and tags that are put on your vehicle are not there to give you permission to drive the vehicle, that is what your "drivers license" is for. The plates are so the State can track their property easily. The State requires us to have insurance to cover damage to their property, if we personally owned the vehicle we could not be forced to purchase a service against our will. (We could be forced to have personal insurance coverage in conjunction with our "drivers license" since that is transferable to any vehicle, and the State has granted us permission to drive. But, if we owned the vehicle we could not be forced to buy insurance for the vehicle if we did not want to so.) I know this sounds a lot like a conspiracy theory, but think about it, "do you own something that you are required to pay the government every year to use, and if you don't pay for it they take it away from you?" It is the same with our houses. If you own your home out right why do you have to pay your yearly rent to the government in the form of property taxes?

Just my 2 cents. I know I don't share the same "reality" as most people, and I am OK with that. I think my ways would grant more liberty.

[Irving]

The state won't take your car if you don't register it. Only if you don't register it to drive it on their roads, and get caught driving on their roads. You are paying to use their roads, not your vehicle. No one comes and takes your television away if you steal cable. **Although some states have made stealing cable a felony, which is ridiculous.**

[sniper7]

bunch of bullshit. black boxes in aircraft are to retrieve data and find out what went wrong, why it went wrong an to hopefully prevent accidents of the same nature in the future.

people not paying attention when on their phones and rear ending someone, or driving drunk, or sliding on ice, blowing a tire, or just being a woman driver (wife is sitting next to me right now) is no reason for a black box in a car.

It isn't some kind of safety equipment that is going to prevent accidents of the same type in the future. driving is unfortunately not a profession. not like being an airline pilot. most private aircraft do not have black boxes and data recorders. most people who fly those aircraft are not professional pilots.

I'm sorry but this is just a waste of money that is passed on to the consumers, probably to be used against them in one way or another if they are ever involved in an accident. This needs to be vigorously fought.

[Byte Stryke]

The state won't take your car if you don't register it. Only if you don't register it to drive it on their roads, and get caught driving on their roads. You are paying to use their roads, not your vehicle. No one comes and takes your television away if you steal cable. **Although some states have made stealing cable a felony, which is ridiculous.**

yeah... be one day late renewing the registration on your car...

I double-dog dare ya.