Liberty Fat Boy 64 safes

[rondog]

Anybody have a Liberty Fat Boy 64 gun safe? Any opinions out there? I really need a decent larger safe, and I'm thinking of one of these....right size and price range. The pistol/accessory panel for the door rocks too. So I'm looking for info.....

[spleify]

Wow, I dont know anything about it but it sure is bad ass!

[HBARleatherneck]

I have the liberty Franklin 50. which has the same dimensions, except mine is a foot taller. mine has the door panel as well. they wont hold anywhere near the listed amount. unless none of your guns have scopes. basically they will fit 64 winchester model 94 rifles. I like mine, but it is what it is. I could cut a hole in the side with an ax or sawsall in about a second. But, for the price and size its not bad. Its not a safe by any means. Your guns are not truly safe in it. If someone wants them they will be gone. But the price difference between this safe and a TL15 or TL30 is a huge jump, so this maybe the best most of us can afford.

I like the door panel too. it fills up quick, just like the rest of the safe.

[bobbyfairbanks]

I thought Liberty where some of the best safes on the market?

[HBARleatherneck]

the thing is...they arent real safes. even they list them on the serial plate as Residential Security Container. they are not safes according to underwriters labratories. they are super thin sheet metal. that can be easily cut or punctured. so, are they better than nothing? sure. are they a real safe, like a TL15 or TL30 safe? no.

watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhOjWHbD6M


again, im not knocking the safe, i have one. i just wish i could afford a real one right now.

also, by lagging your safe to the floor and position the door, opening side to the wall. it would make it much more difficult to pry open. but, still easy with power tools. which we all have in our homes probably.

[bobbyfairbanks]

so are you saying that Liberty are really junk safes?

[Byte Stryke]

I know this guy... works in the security arena
Does Bank vaults and safes, etc

told me once, Safes aren't invulnerable they are all just deterrents.

I have a Liberty Centurion Lagged to the floor
Keeps my kid out of em, I feel better leaving the house knowing they are locked up in there. Can someone get in? Yes Can someone get into a TL-15 or 30? Yes. Only differing degrees of security theater.

The only other advice I would have for you is to go up to the Franklin series at least, and BOLTS BOLTS BOLTS!
The more live bolts the better.

[opie011]

Not the right dimensions but it's a SAFE!
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41305
I know, shameless plug

[Byte Stryke]

so are you saying that Liberty are really junk safes?

well if you want, we can get Opie and crew to build a 2.5 Million Dollar Vault for you...

the thing is, the only time your guns are truly safe is never.
There is always a way to get at them and steal them.
where there is a will there is a way. we can play whatif until we are blue.


best way I can say it is this:
Find a comfortable balance between reasonable security and your budget, find a way to sleep with that.

Yes I Could have spent 8-60 grand on a TL... but do I need that much? no.

[Byte Stryke]

Not the right dimensions but it's a SAFE!
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41305
I know, shameless plug

I think this would be a GREAT safe for you.

unless you have stairs...
or a wood floor.