Traffic wars

[Hannu]

People doing "brake checks" to "tailgaters" are not probably packing - if you have zero respect to your own life in traffic, why would you carry a gun for self defense ?

Tailgating takes always 2 cars/drivers. If you happen to be sitting in front car, do yourself a favor: forget your ego and move over - you will live longer

I wish I had a dime for every time I've come up on someone doing 10 or 15 under the limit, then when I get around them they see me passing, realize how slow they were going and speed up to ten over to stay ahead.

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[Irving]

Tailgating takes always 2 cars/drivers. If you happen to be sitting in front car, do yourself a favor: forget your ego and move over - you will live longer



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That's not true. If I'm sitting in bumper to bumper traffic and can see that it is still bumper to bumper traffic two miles ahead of me, there is zero reason that the car behind me is nearly touching my bumper.

[hip55]

Drive a large pickup or SUV and you will rarely see this kind of nonsense.

Also, we all realize that in Colorado it is perfectly legal to carry a loaded handgun in your vehicle, right? Combine that with an idiot driver with small-dick syndrome and you have the ingredients for a very bad commute.

I just ease over and let the moron pass.

[ZombieKiller25]

You guys can carry on without me. Forever.

Thank God....best news I've read all day!

[Ranger]

Ranger: Nosir. That's not the reason for this thread at all, and if you carefully read the OP, you'll know that.

Oh, you mean where it says 'post your ideas and experiences here' and people's EXPERIENCE with the stuff you are explaining or IDEAS regarding that or other things to do in retaliation for tailgating? Yea, I got it all wrong, thanks for clearing that up.

I put the thread up here for people to tell others what pisses them off in traffic. Tailgaters are my pet peeve, and that's where it started. Now, people are calling ME the aggressor because I try to move people off my ass when they seem to think it's OK to push me harder.

Read YOUR posts and see how wigged out you got to anyone who might have a dissenting opinion! If you wanted to diffuse it, a simple "yea, I can see where that might not be a great idea" would have put this now silly thread to bed a long time ago.

I have to laugh at you junior lawyers here who try to interpret the law to me.

First, there are a lot of LEO on this site. Call me silly but since they are the ones who would be pulling you over for some jackass "antifreeze in the windshield of the tailgater" move, I think they sit as an authority in this matter. Second, there really are, actually, many of us who DO know the law and I can tell you I'm a sight better than a "junior lawyer", this is my field.

Since I visit a gun forum, I must carry a pistol most of the time, and that means I'm going to get mad at you and pull the trigger. Good grief. You guys are too much.

That's a silly notion that someone would imply this, but as a gun owner while you may have rights you have responsibility and as a CCW (don't know if you are one) then the expectation is that you are a cooler head than others without it because we are just one twit away from losing this right as it is and idiots with guns don't help.

You guys can carry on without me. Forever.

Whatever. I hope your skin isn't that thin but if it is then I suppose this is the last post of this thread .

[Ronin13]

I was thinking hard about an experience I had not too long ago and here it is...
So I'm coming home from a meeting in Lakewood a few months ago, driving on I-70WB back up to Evergreen. I usually do about 60 down the hill (limit 55) and between 70 and 75 up the hill (limit 65 with 55min in L lane). So naturally I'm in the left lane of traffic passing people like it's my second job (not because I'm fast and aggressive, but most of the time people can't get up the hill near Genessee at a high rate of speed. So I crest the final hill before it levels off and take my foot off the gas. There is a lot of traffic in the right and middle lanes and I intend to pass as many as possible (within the limits of safety and trying not to break 75mph) before exiting at Evergreen Parkway. Lo and behold some super rushed d-bag in a large pickup comes screaming up on my rear bumper as I'm passing traffic that is clearly slower than me and starts with these "move it along" hand gestures. Obviously right now is not the best time to get out of his way unless I want to become fused with a minivan, but he has about as much patience as a spoiled 8 year old in Toys R Us. Now I'm starting to get a little irked with this guy because if he taps the gas anymore he'll have my BMW for a hood ornament and is driving like a maniac. Finally I find a break in traffic so I can get over and not miss my exit and possibly get this asswipe off of me. I put on the blinker, check mirrors/blind spot, I start to move and look in the rear view and see him giving me a round of applause. As soon as I'm over he begins to pass and I very subtly and casually give him the bird and that's when it happens... he slows, leans completely over the passenger seat (meanwhile I'm doing about 70) and gives me the finger and mouths "I'll f***ing kill you." I get off at my exit and half expect him to cut across 3 lanes of traffic to chase me down. So I pull out my trusted .45 and press check just to make sure she's in condition red and go about my drive. But nothing happened. Some people are just all talk.

[CapLock]

Ronin13 I had an experience almost like that going up 285. Wife had just bought a new car and we go for a drive. I'm driving up 285 going over the speed limit. Probably no more than 10mph cause I hate paying tickets. I'm in the slow lane coming up on an old toyota truck and move over to the fast lane to go around. Not wanting to just cut the truck off I plan on getting well ahead of him before getting back into the slow lane. Some 50ish old man in a Subaru Outback comes out of nowhere hauling ass. Hes laying on the horn as he cuts in front of the Toyota to pass in the slow lane. I lay on the horn back and at that time he jumps in front of me and LOCKS up the brakes. The vibration in the steering wheel from the anti lock brakes was almost enough to loose control. He tried speeding off. I chased him...I know not smart but when someone tries to kill me it gets my blood pressure up a bit. Chased him for about 5 miles before I realized my wife was hysterical in the passanger seat. Guy was lucky cause I will kick an old mans ass in public if provoked. That's my only road rage story.

No wait here's another one. I used to be my uncles helper doing chain link fence. Were driving down I-25 and he snorts a big snot ball into his mouth and spits out the window of our 5 ton flat bed truck. Yea he's an Okie. Next thing you know a trucker in a simi pulls along side pointing and yelling. Apparently it hit right on his windshield. He's pointing for my uncle to pull over. Well my uncle has Corn Fed tatted on his arm for a reason. He's 6'5 325 lbs and has to turn his shoulders sideways to fit through a standard door. We pulled over first and the trucker pulls over in front of us. We just sit there until he gets to the end of his trailer. My uncle jumps out of the truck ready to kick ass. Trucker got one good look and RAN back to his truck and started rowing gears getting the hell out of there.
My younger brother has had guns pulled on him twice in traffic. Twice people went to jail.
Road rage isn't worth it. Guy might be a giant or have the balls to flip you off and then have to back himself up with a gun. Pussification of America has almost totally done away with the good old fashion fist fight.
BTW I usually drive in the middle or slow lane. I'm self employed and don't have to drive 80mph to get to work on time

[mcantar18c]

I was thinking hard about an experience I had not too long ago and here it is...
So I'm coming home from a meeting in Lakewood a few months ago, driving on I-70WB back up to Evergreen. I usually do about 60 down the hill (limit 55) and between 70 and 75 up the hill (limit 65 with 55min in L lane). So naturally I'm in the left lane of traffic passing people like it's my second job (not because I'm fast and aggressive, but most of the time people can't get up the hill near Genessee at a high rate of speed. So I crest the final hill before it levels off and take my foot off the gas. There is a lot of traffic in the right and middle lanes and I intend to pass as many as possible (within the limits of safety and trying not to break 75mph) before exiting at Evergreen Parkway. Lo and behold some super rushed d-bag in a large pickup comes screaming up on my rear bumper as I'm passing traffic that is clearly slower than me and starts with these "move it along" hand gestures. Obviously right now is not the best time to get out of his way unless I want to become fused with a minivan, but he has about as much patience as a spoiled 8 year old in Toys R Us. Now I'm starting to get a little irked with this guy because if he taps the gas anymore he'll have my BMW for a hood ornament and is driving like a maniac. Finally I find a break in traffic so I can get over and not miss my exit and possibly get this asswipe off of me. I put on the blinker, check mirrors/blind spot, I start to move and look in the rear view and see him giving me a round of applause. As soon as I'm over he begins to pass and I very subtly and casually give him the bird and that's when it happens... he slows, leans completely over the passenger seat (meanwhile I'm doing about 70) and gives me the finger and mouths "I'll f***ing kill you." I get off at my exit and half expect him to cut across 3 lanes of traffic to chase me down. So I pull out my trusted .45 and press check just to make sure she's in condition red and go about my drive. But nothing happened. Some people are just all talk.

Now see, that's exactly what I was talking about in my earlier posts about not escalating a potential situation where you may be forced to use your weapon.

[Ronin13]

Now see, that's exactly what I was talking about in my earlier posts about not escalating a potential situation where you may be forced to use your weapon.

True... and I usually try to avoid confrontation wherever possible, but if it's unavoidable I used force (deadly or otherwise) as a last resort when all other diplomatic options have failed. My brother had a gun pulled on him in traffic. In Evergreen, approaching the lake where the two lanes of traffic merge to become one, this car camping in my bro's blind spot couldn't get around him so they got right behind him and were honking and flashing lights. My brother gets to our road where there is a turn lane and the guy rolls passed him and pulls up a gun. Good thing my brother wasn't carrying, he's kinda crazy and would have followed this guy and been like "you wanna pull a gun on me!?" But in the end he said it looked like a bb gun.