Traffic wars

[tmjohnson]

I used to work on a ranch and drove and old dog with a hydralic bail mover on the back. I had to go thru Oklahoma City, and on the way thru I had a little sports car get on my back bumper and would not get off. After awhile I got tired of it so I just started lower those bail forks. That little sports car backed off and then went around me. They flipped me off, I laughed the whole way home.

[Irving]

Now why am I not surprised by a response like that?

Because you're trying to converse with adults?

[TS12000]

I was considering a bumper sticker that reads:

If you're close enough to read this, you are about to become a victim of insurance fraud

[Irving]

At least that bumper sticker is some what honest.

I want a bumper sticker that says, "Honk twice for Spanish."

lmao.

[Monky]

Now why am I not surprised by a response like that?

Possibly. Of course, I also said I haven't set it up.

My brake lights won't cause that problem, though. I've been known to be pretty aggressive trying to stop for that "whatever-it-is" in the road in front of me when someone's too close behind me.

Should I start with what being liable is?
How about the difference negligence and premeditation?

If you are intent on them running into the back of your car at speed, in your anticipation of the accident chances are you will tense every muscle in your body.. upon impact.. you will be hurt worse/more severely than the person caught unaware by your stupidity.

That being said.. there are several things you can do rather than get so upset you are contemplating attempted vehicular manslaughter...

You are apparently not in a hurry.. so you're not dumb. You can manage your time just fine.. so spend a few more minutes and screw with their head.

It's rather entertaining to condition someone as you drive. When they're on your ass slow down.. they will create distance or go around.. speed up when they create distance till they close the gap again.. slow down again.. speed up when there is distance.. see how long it takes them to realize that speed is increased with distance.. It's kind of fun actually.

[mcantar18c]

That other thread about the morons camping in the left lane got me to thinking about how folks deal with folks like that on the highway.

Post your ideas and experiences here.

Me? I absolutely HATE tailgaters. When someone is riding my ass and won't go around, I figure I have no choice except to slow down to reduce the severity of the impending accident. But I have considered a mod to the War Wagon that might get them to back off.

I'm thinking an old windshield washer tank mounted in the trunk, plumbed to a jet in the trunk lid and wired to a switch on the dashboard. Then, fill the tank with antifreeze.

You know what comes next.

Haven't done it yet. Got the idea from my brother who DID. Sounds like it results in an instant rainbow on the tailgater's windshield when they start the wipers. And my car is so old, it wouldn't be unusual for it to leak antifreeze by itself anyway . . .

Not going to address the antifreeze thing, not even worth getting into.
But picture this scenario:
Guy's riding your ass and you slam your breaks on to avoid the "whatever-it-is" in the road as you put it in your other post. Guy slams into you because he's following too closely, and assuming he isn't a complete idiot he understands what you did ("break checked" him). You both pull off to assess the damage and do the normal accident crap, he's pissed cause he was already in a hurry (thus riding your ass and trying to pass you) and now you're asshatery is going to cost him a decent chunk of time and money so he's even more pissed, and becomes confrontational. You don't seem like the type to try to de-escalate a situation, or say you try and it doesn't work, and things keep escalating. He starts pushing you around and it gets ugly, and you have to resort to deadly force (I'm assuming that being a member of this forum, you carry on a regular basis). Fast forward to court, where a jury decides that had you not intentionally caused the accident, the altercation would never have happened and someone wouldn't be dead. You're now spending the rest of your life behind bars. Was it worth it?
Or maybe you don't have to use deadly force, but you two are fighting on the side of the road and here comes the cop to do the accident report (or maybe you/he didn't call it in, but someone calls the cops on two guys beating the shit outta each other). Still gonna get some jail time.... still worth it?

[Tweety Bird]

Not going to address the antifreeze thing, not even worth getting into.

I'm not even going to waste the bandwidth posting the rest of what you wrote.

You're making a LOT of assumptions there.

[Tweety Bird]

Should I start with what being liable is?
How about the difference negligence and premeditation?

If you are intent on them running into the back of your car at speed, in your anticipation of the accident chances are you will tense every muscle in your body.. upon impact.. you will be hurt worse/more severely than the person caught unaware by your stupidity.

That being said.. there are several things you can do rather than get so upset you are contemplating attempted vehicular manslaughter...

You are apparently not in a hurry.. so you're not dumb. You can manage your time just fine.. so spend a few more minutes and screw with their head.

It's rather entertaining to condition someone as you drive. When they're on your ass slow down.. they will create distance or go around.. speed up when they create distance till they close the gap again.. slow down again.. speed up when there is distance.. see how long it takes them to realize that speed is increased with distance.. It's kind of fun actually.

Are you serious? I'm getting my ass handed to me here (you're accusing me before the fact of attempted manslaughter, and another guy suggests that I might wind up shooting somebody) because I tap the brakes (sometimes pretty hard), yet you're condoning messing with their heads as badly as I am?

Good grief. I'm actually a less aggressive driver than many of you appear to be, since some are supposedly suggesting that it's OK to tailgate if you're in a hurry.

If you don't want my brake lights in your face, BACK OFF! It's really a pretty simple concept. Late for work? Not my problem. Go around me. If you can't go around me, riding my ass isn't going to get you there any sooner; in fact, it might slow the whole process down a little bit.

Tell you what. I'll keep the hell outta the left lane on the interstate unless I'm passing (always have, anyway), and you keep the hell off my rear bumper. Deal?

[SuperiorDG]

Heard the other day, I think on 103.5 FM, that out a group of people ask if they were unsafe drives, 100% said no. If we all think we are safe, then who are the bad drivers? I guess everybody else.

I know for a fact that now that I carry I am a much safer and nicer driver. I don't want to have to shoot someone over some stupid traffic sh!t.

[Tweety Bird]

You get the same stuff in any forum you visit. Makes no difference if it's cars, guns, golf, skiing, or anything else.

Everybody who posts thinks they're qualified in some superior fashion over most everybody. You've read it: Everybody ELSE is a danger, a hazard, an asshold, shouldn't be there, yadayadayadayada.

I see it all the time in the form of, "some people just shouldn't be allowed to (own guns) (drive) (have kids)." You name it, somebody else shouldn't be allowed to do it.

The problem is, once you fall into that trap, you're giving someone ELSE (usually some bureaucrat) the power to make the decision over who DOES get to do it and if they can take it away from HIM, he can take it away from YOU.

As far as being a nicer driver now that you carry, I don't doubt it. That might lead to "safer", as well, but I don't think they're directly connected. (For instance, I have a cousin who's the nicest person in the world. Always a smile on her face, always nice to everybody. But I wouldn't ride with her.)

Of course, since I visit an AR-15 forum a lot, it's assumed that I carry one in my car, or conceal one on my person, and I might get violent with it. So apparently it can work the other way, too.

(Like I said, there were a LOT of assumptions in that post. Wrong assumptions, by the way, but that's OK because the assumptions did exactly what they always do. I don't care; if people think I'm crazy, maybe they'll stay away from me.)

Of course, I'm the stupid one here (refer to post #15), so what do I know?