so are you saying that Liberty are really junk safes?
so are you saying that Liberty are really junk safes?
well if you want, we can get Opie and crew to build a 2.5 Million Dollar Vault for you...
the thing is, the only time your guns are truly safe is never.
There is always a way to get at them and steal them.
where there is a will there is a way. we can play whatif until we are blue.
best way I can say it is this:
Find a comfortable balance between reasonable security and your budget, find a way to sleep with that.
Yes I Could have spent 8-60 grand on a TL... but do I need that much? no.
I looked at the Liberties, and they are good security for the money. I ended up with a Cannon, mostly because the wife found a really good deal on it, and it was the right color(so SHE said). Does it proved absolute security? No. Does it provide adequate security? Yes. I have it in a corner, bolted to both walls into studs, and into the floor joists as well. If someone had time and tools, they could probably get into it, but the casual smash-n-grab thief is gonna look at it like a peacock looks at an algebra problem...plus it provides some protection in the event of a fire.
Light a fire for a man, and he'll be warm for a day, light a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life...
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best way I can say it is this:
Find a comfortable balance between reasonable security and your budget, find a way to sleep with that.
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this is why I currently have the Liberty safe. It was affordable and adequate. (well $2100 isnt exactly affordable) but cheaper than some.
that safe was on sale last black friday... i'd wait for a good price and every safe can be opened if the BG has the right tools.
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Gander Mountain currently has the FatBoy on sale for $1699, I think it is. After a mail-in rebate that is. Probably not the best price there is, it's Gander Mountain after all. HBARleatherneck gave me the name of the dealer he got his from, I'll have to call him.
I'm also interested in Champions and Superiors, Found a place called Colorado Safe Outlet that has them, but haven't connected on the phone yet.
I'm actually jumping the gun here, I can't buy anything like this until I shovel out the space in the garage for it and get some insulating/drywalling done where it's going to sit. And I have to build some shelves for about 2000lbs. of ammo cans.![]()
I still like Zanotti Armor since they are modular. They're probably about the same or marginally better than the Liberty safes. Being modular you can move them without help and you can get them into tight spaces. Someone with the proper tools and some time could break into them but all these are designed to do is be massively inconvenient for your basic burglar. I did some bolting into the floor and wall since the back is the weakest part. I also have lots of lead under the floors.
http://www.zanottiarmor.com/faq.htm
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it was the fat boy jr.
http://bfads.net/Gander-Mountain-Bla...Fatboy-Jr-Safe
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