I looked at the Liberties, and they are good security for the money. I ended up with a Cannon, mostly because the wife found a really good deal on it, and it was the right color(so SHE said). Does it proved absolute security? No. Does it provide adequate security? Yes. I have it in a corner, bolted to both walls into studs, and into the floor joists as well. If someone had time and tools, they could probably get into it, but the casual smash-n-grab thief is gonna look at it like a peacock looks at an algebra problem...plus it provides some protection in the event of a fire.
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best way I can say it is this:
Find a comfortable balance between reasonable security and your budget, find a way to sleep with that.
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this is why I currently have the Liberty safe. It was affordable and adequate. (well $2100 isnt exactly affordable) but cheaper than some.
that safe was on sale last black friday... i'd wait for a good price and every safe can be opened if the BG has the right tools.
"An armed society is a polite society when a man may have to back his last words with gunplay."
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you can also hit the website at http://www.libertysafe.com/finddealer.php and find a retailer near you
Yeah, I know it's not a "real safe" and just an RSC, but that's really all there is unless you're loaded with dough. If I had that kind of dough I'd just move into a better, more secure place. I'm not terribly worried about theft.....like y'all said, if a thief wants them, he'll get them.
My main concern is getting all my stuff up out of the basement and into a reasonably secure container in the garage. I'm getting too damn old to schlep alla my crap up and down the stairs whenever I want to go shooting, it needs to be where I can use it. But I need it to at least keep the teenagers out and deter any casual thieving turds. I plan on building a wooden cabinet around whatever RSC I get to "disguise" it.
I do like the tip about the Franklin, thanks! That's one thing I don't like about the FatBoy, it's too short. But I do need the wide and shallow dimensions, and taller would be awesome.
Murdoch's Ranch & Home Supply
9150 Wadsworth Parkway
Westminster, CO 80021
Phone: (303) 422-9100
They have these safes for sale all the time. They have several on display (not positive about the Fat Boy).
Gander Mountain currently has the FatBoy on sale for $1699, I think it is. After a mail-in rebate that is. Probably not the best price there is, it's Gander Mountain after all. HBARleatherneck gave me the name of the dealer he got his from, I'll have to call him.
I'm also interested in Champions and Superiors, Found a place called Colorado Safe Outlet that has them, but haven't connected on the phone yet.
I'm actually jumping the gun here, I can't buy anything like this until I shovel out the space in the garage for it and get some insulating/drywalling done where it's going to sit. And I have to build some shelves for about 2000lbs. of ammo cans.![]()
I still like Zanotti Armor since they are modular. They're probably about the same or marginally better than the Liberty safes. Being modular you can move them without help and you can get them into tight spaces. Someone with the proper tools and some time could break into them but all these are designed to do is be massively inconvenient for your basic burglar. I did some bolting into the floor and wall since the back is the weakest part. I also have lots of lead under the floors.
http://www.zanottiarmor.com/faq.htm
Steve