Fill Me The F#$K In!!

[Cbrown]

I don't know Dudley at all but it was asked in this thread if RMGO does even one good thing for gun owners.

One example is the list they keep of businesses that choose to disallow firearms. I appreciate the fact that I can choose to spend my money locally at businesses that don't go out of their way to infringe on my carry rights.

I can say objectively that RMGO.com's section on these businesses is a good thing for all Colorado gun owners regardless of what one may think of Dudley as a person or the organization as a whole.

Again, I am only trying to be objective.

[banks74]

I know Dudley and he is a good guy. RMGO has done a lot of work in CO to improve our rights. I don't always agree with the everything but I still support their efforts and goal to secure more freedom for us in CO and nationally with NAGR.

I am an NRA member as well as NAGR and RMGO. I have been disgruntled with the NRA in several areas the last couple years, but the last straw was the NRA endorsed Markey over Gardner, a guy I have shot machine guns next too at the shoots in eastern CO, I gave up on them and am moving on.

Austin

[Byte Stryke]

I Guess my point is this:
How can you claim to be doing something positive for Colorado Gun Owners when you use your membership roster to ask us to line up and get screwed by Gunsmoke on National TV?

had this been some "Off List" advert I would say "Ok, they are just spamming."
You Used a list we entrusted to you to further the rights of Citizens, Not further the pockets of Dick Wyatt.


"Character is that thing you do when you think no one is looking."

[Colorado Luckydog]

I Guess my point is this:
How can you claim to be doing something positive for Colorado Gun Owners when you use your membership roster to ask us to line up and get screwed by Gunsmoke on National TV?

had this been some "Off List" advert I would say "Ok, they are just spamming."
You Used a list we entrusted to you to further the rights of Citizens, Not further the pockets of Dick Wyatt.


"Character is that thing you do when you think no one is looking."

Byte, I ain't arguing with you. In fact, this is why I started this thread. You need to go into more detail. How are we getting "screwed by Gunsmoke on National TV"?

[Byte Stryke]

Byte, I ain't arguing with you. In fact, this is why I started this thread. You need to go into more detail. How are we getting "screwed by Gunsmoke on National TV"?

well if a zebra can change their stripes and a Leopard can change their spots it might be all OK.
However, I can pretty well predict that the river will continue to flow, the grass will continue to grow and Gunsmoke will continue mounting customer complaints. For RMGO to use their Membership list to look for volunteers/victims of this is less than amusing.

[RMGOdirector]

Pickenup: You asked what we do.

http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41997

[RMGOdirector]

I'm not here to be pro or anti RMGO. However, I have a hard time believing that they had anything to do with Colorado's "Make My Day" law. This law was passed 26 years ago back in 1985. I may be wrong, but I don't think RMGO was around back then. Do you have some evidence to support this?

RMGO didn't claim to write the current "Make My Day" law that is now in Colorado Statutes.

We have been trying to expand that law, so it covers you in your place of business, in your car, or other areas.

Yes, please: let the smoke clear (if you'll pardon the pun) on this TV Show, and see what you think, if you have questions about us. Judge RMGO by what it does, where it stands, and (in regards to this TV show) the part RMGO plays (NOT Rich Wyatt, or anyone else, as we have no control over that).

To some here who are NRA guys, but then say "I can't believe RMGO would associate with Rich Wyatt", I suggest you look at an American Rifleman magazine from early 2010, with Sen. Harry Reid's picture all over it (with Wayne LaPierre fawning all over him).

[Storm]

RMGO didn't claim to write the current "Make My Day" law that is now in Colorado Statutes.

We have been trying to expand that law, so it covers you in your place of business, in your car, or other areas.

Yes, please: let the smoke clear (if you'll pardon the pun) on this TV Show, and see what you think, if you have questions about us. Judge RMGO by what it does, where it stands, and (in regards to this TV show) the part RMGO plays (NOT Rich Wyatt, or anyone else, as we have no control over that).

To some here who are NRA guys, but then say "I can't believe RMGO would associate with Rich Wyatt", I suggest you look at an American Rifleman magazine from early 2010, with Sen. Harry Reid's picture all over it (with Wayne LaPierre fawning all over him).

RMGOdirector,
My issue wasn't with you, but was with newracer's claim that RMGO had something to do with the Colorado Castle Doctrine law. I doubted this for reason's stated. This was not an attack on RMGO.

From what I know about RMGO, y'all do some good WRT the Second Amendment in Colorado.

[Bailey Guns]

To some here who are NRA guys, but then say "I can't believe RMGO would associate with Rich Wyatt", I suggest you look at an American Rifleman magazine from early 2010, with Sen. Harry Reid's picture all over it (with Wayne LaPierre fawning all over him).

OK, Dudley...

You just about had me back in your court on the Wyatt/Gunsmoke thing...until you wrote that.

The "NRA does it, too!" defense is pretty lame. I thought you might be above such a weak, straw-man argument. I guess not.

I have 2 big arguments with RMGO:

• the constant bad-mouthing of the NRA
• and now this deal with Wyatt/Gunsmoke

I've been able to overlook the NRA bashing though I'm a Benefactor Member. I'd considered renewing my membership to RMGO as I always do. Now, I'm on the fence again.

The only compelling argument I can see in renewing is the fact you do fight the good fight in Colorado and I appreciate that.

But the NRA bashing is a big turnoff and it's not helping your position...at least with me, anyway. And this sort of statement certainly doesn't help.

If you're going to say it's wrong for NRA don't you have to admit it's wrong for RMGO?

[RMGOdirector]

No, two wrongs don't make a right. I was merely showing the hypocrisy of some.

Harry Reid is a leftist-voting politician whom the NRA gives cover to, in exchange for "access" for them.

Rich Wyatt, whatever you might say about him, is a gun rights activist (sorry, no one on this list has proven he's not, and can't, unless they tell me their name and can list decades of fighting against gun control).

Quite different, even if you hate his shop, his personality (frankly, I know quite a few politicians who have amiable personalities but vote terribly), etc.

For RMGO, trying to steer an already existing TV show to be better (by having our members be a part of the show) when they talk about the gun community is a no-brainer.

As for us talking "out of school" about the NRA, sorry, but we're not going to stop talking about anyone -- regardless of their affiliations -- who sell out gun owners. Period. Full stop.