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  1. #11
    Demodave
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    Cody is good people. One of the few that actually has been "there".....

    Good article, never know when that info could be put into use.

    I've had hits with a G21 at 300, witnessed...

    Repeatable? on a good day maybe....it's a tough shot.

    hits at 200, absolutely with a G19, G21

    100, easy. 10/10 on a steel IPSC. With a G34 its a cake walk.

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    For me it's the fun of applying math to long range shooting. I have a feeling that Cody just swagged the system, but it would (should) be possible to make 1st shots using the MOA system that i mentioned before. Measure your sight radius and sight height, convert to MOA, run the ballistics program, calc. the holdover required and shoot. I.e, just like this (copied from Specialty Pistols website)--

    Ok--started messing with some of this stuff recently, and it's become quite fascinating applying the math using it. Here's what i did. I measured the sight radius from rear sight to front face of the front sight of my Ruger Mk. III Tgt. pistol at exactly 7.9" with a caliper. Then i measured the length of the front sight at .25". So i figured it oughtta' be linear to any other range. I wanted to be able to match it to a ballistics programs MOA calcs. So i needed to find out what it would be at 100 yds. (3600 inches), so i set up aratio and proportion calc.-- .25/7.9 = x/3600, x= 114 inch per hundred yds./1.047 = 109 MOA or close enough to 100 MOA for iron sight purposes. So my gunsmith milled 3 horizontal lines below the top of the sight to ideally give me 4 25 MOA units to work with. But there's a problem with the sight. It ramps off at an angle right at the 75 MOA mark, so the sight picture makes it look longer than it is. Not a problem really as i don't anticipate shooting at anything further than 75 MOA anyways. That'd probably be beyond 400 yds. with a 22.--

    Now the problem is, how to calculate the "little click" value as mentioned in Ed Woszika's article referenced in my 1st posting. The 2nd diagram below--





    ...there has to be some mathematical calc. here in this 2nd pic., but i can't null it out. I'm gonna figure it out though.
    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    I've shot pretty much every handgun I have at 100 yds...maybe a little further. With a few "sight in" rounds I can get minute of torso pretty easy.

    Don't know that I'd care to waste ammo, though, at 100 yds if I was in a defensive situation unless it was absolutely necessary. 700 yds? Definitely not. Personally I'd be looking for an escape route. The average bad guy...hell, even the above average bad guy, isn't going to be able to put shots on a moving target (yes, I'd be moving) at 700 yds even with a rifle.

    I'd want to be pretty sure of hits before I started firing back as it's likely ammo supply would be a consideration.
    Totally Agreed

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