What RMGO does?

[RMGOdirector]

It's funny: some here criticize RMGO for tooting it's horn, and then others say "What does RMGO do?"

So, yes, we'll toot our horn. And why shouldn't we? I'm damn proud of the hard work of members and staff for RMGO.

An AR-15 forum should be as well: it's no coincidence that RMGO's main logo is an AR-15. We think it symbolizes real freedom (not just freedom for shotgun shooters or more politically correct firearms).

So let's just make a few points:

Do you like carrying concealed in your church, bar or restaurant that serves alcohol, public sporting event, etc? Thank RMGO -- we had to fight against "You-know-who" to make that a part of Colorado law.

Do you like having your name entered into CCIC in the Permit Holder Database (i.e. dangerous persons)? If not, thank RMGO (and get involved with what we're doing in the next few days, which I'll post up). When RMGO brought this up in 2003, CSSA and NRA pooh-poohed the issue, saying we were being paranoid. Now, at least the NRA is onboard with us (CSSA is largely dead now, which is probably a good thing).

Do you want Aurora PD arresting people for guns in their car (which state law says is ENTIRELY legal)? Thank RMGO (and John Sternberg, who drove this bus) for completely revamping Aurora's illegal ordinance and even changing the Aurora Police Department's training materials on guns in cars.

CSU carry? Thank RMGO.

McDonald Supreme Court Case? RMGO filed a brief in that case, and was even quoted by Alito.

Happy we have hardcore pro-gun legislators in the Colorado House and Senate?

There's only one reason weak-kneed Republicans have not joined with Gov. Hickenlooper to enact new gun controls, and that's because of the threat of being unelected by RMGO -- and the stiff-spined leadership of the pro-gun conservatives RMGO got into office (Sens. Brophy, Harvey, Kopp, Renfroe, Lambert, Lundberg, Grantham, and Reps. Holbert, Szabo, et al).

In fact, ask one of those legislators who they trust on gun issues. I know what they'll say, because if you drive around the Capitol during the session and look at member's cars, you'll see one of our decals on most of the pro-gun legislators' vehicles or on their laptop computers. Many were members before they ran for the legislature (and we recruited them).

Do you like the idea of Constitutional Carry (i.e. no permit needed carry for law-abiding citizens, which used to be called a "Vermont Law")?

If so, no other group is working for it. No one.

We could go on and on. But you get the idea.

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Why are we tooting our own horn?

Because politics is a team sport. Lone-wolfing it can only get you so far. If that's what you want to do, go ahead, but don't be surprised when you don't get anything done.

co-ar15.com itself is a group of people, banding together with common interest.

RMGO just does it on a much bigger scale, and with a more specific purpose.

I'll guarantee you won't like SOMETHING we do at some point. We'll goof something up. But I can guarantee you we'll err on the side of freedom.

[wctriumph]

The House of Murphy is with you 100%. Proud to be a member of a truly effective organization that looks out for the working man's rights. Keep up the good fight and may God speed you to victory again and again.

Wayne, Susan and Sheelagh Murphy

God bless the RMGO
God bless America

[jmg8550]

I tried joining your organization. Dudley's business card was left on my windshield while parked at NAPA in Windsor. Your organization has a Windsor PO box. I didn't have a debit/credit card at that time to pay for a membership. I called and left numerous messages and emails concerning paying for a membership with cash, personal check, or money order (I live in Windsor, I could have dropped it in your PO box) My phone calls and emails were completely unanswered.

I gave up on joining your organization after that.

I'll stay an NRA member, I'm a little more important to them.

[DSB OUTDOORS]

RMGO!

Thank You!!
DSB

[RMGOdirector]

jmg8550, I do remember the complaint though still, to this day, I have no knowledge of how you fell through the cracks.

If it happened during a campaign season, it shouldn't be surprising (though I still do my best to make sure it doesn't happen).

The NRA has $370 million annually to hire staff to answer phones, and send you mountains of mail. But they have one lobbyist (a good guy, really) who covers 6-7 states, and truthfully, he's often forced to side with our opponents (the NRA endorsed hardcore lefty Betsy Markey in Colorado's 4th CD, over gun rights hero Cory Gardner).

If you think your money is better spent there, have at it, of course.

[alxone]

personally my money is spent on gas ,trash bags , ect to make a change in public option of the shooting community.
but i do have a question where does all the money go ???
honestly i do not see the need to throw tons of money at the problem of gun legislation unless your bribing people ? im sure there is at lest one gun owning lawyer that is down for the cause and if you were not constantly sending me doom email along with asking for a hand out (in a spam letter ) i might be willing to donate some time.also please dont say well we need the money for printing as im sure there is at least one printer who is down for the cause .
honestly it seems to me that rmgo , nra ect are just lining there pockets with our green backs by using fear as a tactic
although i do appreciate the work rmgo and the nra has done i just dont see the need for millions to filter through a non profit organization unless someone is making a profit .

[pickenup]

Pickenup: You asked what we do.

Yes, in another thread, I did. I wanted to see if anyone had a clue as to what RMGO does. Other than sending out info, a reference to the carry on college battle, and a few VERY "general" statements about fighting for this or that, no one seem to know.

As for the list of businesses that do not allow concealed carry, isn't that "mostly" a list comprised of information that the MEMBERS send in?

Looking at YOUR list of "accomplishments" you posted here, is not all that impressive, if one believes in the constitution. After all, the concealed carry law we have now IS infringing on our "right to BEAR arms" is it not? Different aspects of the UNconstitutional concealed carry laws, and getting politicians elected is, for the most part, what YOU listed.

In the McDonald case, there were a total of 33 briefs filed. One of the briefs was signed by 58 senators and 251 representatives, more members of Congress than any amicus curiae brief in history.

Concerning the "constitutional" carry bills that you have been fighting for. You have been fighting for more than a decade, doesn't seem to have done much good.....yet.

As in our communication last year, I asked you for ammunition, SOLID facts to fight the anti-gun, anti-RMGO folks. Something that RMGO has done so I could SHOW them.
Your reply...."SO much of what I do isn't something we can brag about publicly....." I can't talk about this, I can't talk about that.
OK, I understand, but that does not give us much to fight with, does it?


Since you are the one who started "this" post, about what RMGO does, I will address a concern of mine.

Correct me if I am wrong. You founded RMGO in 1996, and fought for our (Colorado's) rights, as executive director of that organization. Fighting for us kept you busy, every day, 24/7/365. Is this correct?

Then in 2006 you became executive director of NAGR.
(National Association for Gun Rights)
"National" being the key word. Doesn't "national" mean that YOU deal with issues nationally now? National, as in every state in the country? Did you have that much extra time, or are we, as RMGO members not getting quite the attention that we USED to....or?

Now you say....

makes what I do (every day, 24/7/365, often at the expense of my family) worth it.

Don't get me wrong, I have been a member for quite a number of years, and plans are to continue to be. Unlike the NRA, I do think that you have our constitutional "best interest" at heart, until I start to believe otherwise.........well, change happens.

[Wulf202]

I still have yet to see an explanation for the RMGO/gunsmoke association.

[alxone]

damn dudley your missing out!! so today when the park service asked why im cleaning the ranges and who im with .
what was said "hi my name is alex and no im not a part of any organization but i do belong to a firearms related online forum . its support of coar15 and my lady that makes this possible "
what could have been said "hi my name is alex and im with rmgo . yes rmgo stands behind this action. isnt it nice to have a state wide organization that is willing to do things like this without being asked "
its only gonna get better and coar15 and its members will get to share in whatever bonus that might come for this . when its all said and done remember this, i offered and you declined .

[Great-Kazoo]

damn dudley your missing out!! so today when the park service asked why im cleaning the ranges and who im with .
what was said "hi my name is alex and no im not a part of any organization but i do belong to a firearms related online forum . its support of coar15 and my lady that makes this possible "
what could have been said "hi my name is alex and im with rmgo . yes rmgo stands behind this action. isnt it nice to have a state wide organization that is willing to do things like this without being asked "
its only gonna get better and coar15 and its members will get to share in whatever bonus that might come for this . when its all said and done remember this, i offered and you declined .

your enthusiasm is falling on deaf ears. Dudly who does have the interest of gun owners at heart has become nothing more than a lobbyist. granted rmgo has been fighting the good fight, however tunnel vision has set in. Otherwise rmgo would have at least offered to cover some expenses for your outstanding effort doing range clean up. All i might add without me or anyone (at least i know of) receiving an e-m or p-m asking for A DONATION!!