What RMGO does?

[Byte Stryke]

I think what Ax is trying to say is "Hearts and Minds"
No so good in armed conflict, GREAT in politics.

even if its sending an email on Alxone's behalf for one of his range cleanups.
RMGO rep shows up and serves lemonade with the RMGO banner on the table.
Someone calls a news channel, faces and good things are in the news, politicians line up to be a part of good publicity.

you are out a few hours and some lemonade.

Help us to help you to help us help you.

[CMP_5.56]

I personally see the fight for our rights and the need to shed positive light on the shooting community, as one and the same. Politicians respond to positive press as well as fear of losing office.

[RMGOdirector]

Public opinion and public policy (i.e. The law) are two very different things, and often at odds.

http://www.rmgo.org/strategy

Even if you could change public opinion in a significant way (almost impossible), that doesn't mean public policy on gun issues changes.

[DD977GM2]

I think Ax is also trying to say, if RMGO really needs $$$$$$$, a range cleanup would be a great way to do it.

Shooting starting at 9am based on donations to the RMGO to participate in the shoot. No real prizes except posative press for all involved, including the clean up being done.

All seem to win because at this type of event
We get a publisized (hopefully) shoot that gets a good cleaning
RMGO gets donations that ARE voluntary
Public sees we are all around good folks and guns are not scary.

That I would donate and I would feel better about donating in a venue such as that or simular.

GM2

[Byte Stryke]

Public opinion and public policy (i.e. The law) are two very different things, and often at odds.

http://www.rmgo.org/strategy

Even if you could change public opinion in a significant way (almost impossible), that doesn't mean public policy on gun issues changes.

which is why I would like to use Mr Udall's Stance for public ranges to shed positive light on the situation and reinforce everyone's position.
win-win for everyone

I only mention this because sitting on my ass and hoping things get better by writing checks to you NAGR, NRA and GOA Doesn't seem to be working very well.

[jmg8550]

Public opinion and public policy (i.e. The law) are two very different things, and often at odds.

http://www.rmgo.org/strategy

Even if you could change public opinion in a significant way (almost impossible), that doesn't mean public policy on gun issues changes.

Changing public opinion will eventually lead to changing public policy.

For example: Let's look at gun control, the media showed firearms in a negative way so that led to public opinion saying "guns are scary and dangerous", which led to public policy adopting some laws that are ridiculous and don't do anything but increase crime. But the public still sees that we need more gun control that doesn't work. So more laws are adopted and before we know it, it's too late to change 'public opinion' and our rights are completely gone.

[alxone]

just because a man listens does not mean he understands

[pickenup]

Pickenup: You asked what we do.

Yes, in another thread, I did. I wanted to see if anyone had a clue as to what RMGO does. Other than sending out info, a reference to the carry on college battle, and a few VERY "general" statements about fighting for this or that, no one seem to know.

As for the list of businesses that do not allow concealed carry, isn't that "mostly" a list comprised of information that the MEMBERS send in?

Looking at YOUR list of "accomplishments" you posted here, is not all that impressive, if one believes in the constitution. After all, the concealed carry law we have now IS infringing on our "right to BEAR arms" is it not? Different aspects of the UNconstitutional concealed carry laws, and getting politicians elected is, for the most part, what YOU listed.

In the McDonald case, there were a total of 33 briefs filed. One of the briefs was signed by 58 senators and 251 representatives, more members of Congress than any amicus curiae brief in history.

Concerning the "constitutional" carry bills that you have been fighting for. You have been fighting for more than a decade, doesn't seem to have done much good.....yet.

As in our communication last year, I asked you for ammunition, SOLID facts to fight the anti-gun, anti-RMGO folks. Something that RMGO has done so I could SHOW them.
Your reply...."SO much of what I do isn't something we can brag about publicly....." I can't talk about this, I can't talk about that.
OK, I understand, but that does not give us much to fight with, does it?


Since you are the one who started "this" post, about what RMGO does, I will address a concern of mine.

Correct me if I am wrong. You founded RMGO in 1996, and fought for our (Colorado's) rights, as executive director of that organization. Fighting for us kept you busy, every day, 24/7/365. Is this correct?

Then in 2006 you became executive director of NAGR.
(National Association for Gun Rights)
"National" being the key word. Doesn't "national" mean that YOU deal with issues nationally now? National, as in every state in the country? Did you have that much extra time, or are we, as RMGO members not getting quite the attention that we USED to....or?

Now you say....

makes what I do (every day, 24/7/365, often at the expense of my family) worth it.

Don't get me wrong, I have been a member for quite a number of years, and plans are to continue to be. Unlike the NRA, I do think that you have our constitutional "best interest" at heart, until I start to believe otherwise.........well, change happens.

[Wulf202]

I still have yet to see an explanation for the RMGO/gunsmoke association.

[alxone]

damn dudley your missing out!! so today when the park service asked why im cleaning the ranges and who im with .
what was said "hi my name is alex and no im not a part of any organization but i do belong to a firearms related online forum . its support of coar15 and my lady that makes this possible "
what could have been said "hi my name is alex and im with rmgo . yes rmgo stands behind this action. isnt it nice to have a state wide organization that is willing to do things like this without being asked "
its only gonna get better and coar15 and its members will get to share in whatever bonus that might come for this . when its all said and done remember this, i offered and you declined .