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    jmg8550, I do remember the complaint though still, to this day, I have no knowledge of how you fell through the cracks.

    If it happened during a campaign season, it shouldn't be surprising (though I still do my best to make sure it doesn't happen).

    The NRA has $370 million annually to hire staff to answer phones, and send you mountains of mail. But they have one lobbyist (a good guy, really) who covers 6-7 states, and truthfully, he's often forced to side with our opponents (the NRA endorsed hardcore lefty Betsy Markey in Colorado's 4th CD, over gun rights hero Cory Gardner).

    If you think your money is better spent there, have at it, of course.
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    personally my money is spent on gas ,trash bags , ect to make a change in public option of the shooting community.
    but i do have a question where does all the money go ???
    honestly i do not see the need to throw tons of money at the problem of gun legislation unless your bribing people ? im sure there is at lest one gun owning lawyer that is down for the cause and if you were not constantly sending me doom email along with asking for a hand out (in a spam letter ) i might be willing to donate some time.also please dont say well we need the money for printing as im sure there is at least one printer who is down for the cause .
    honestly it seems to me that rmgo , nra ect are just lining there pockets with our green backs by using fear as a tactic
    although i do appreciate the work rmgo and the nra has done i just dont see the need for millions to filter through a non profit organization unless someone is making a profit .

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    You should cast a critical eye on non-profits.

    RMGO is a very public entity. We file our 990 forms (where money is spent and raised), which you can view at guidestar.org for free.

    We raise about $200,000 a year nowadays, with much of that going to postage. Mailing broad groups of like-minded people to tell them their elected official is a gun-grabbing scumbag isn't cheap, nor is the apparatus to get those written and out the door.

    RMGO's size is now a bit inflated, since we share staff with NAGR (which is a much, much larger organization). So you'll see RMGO do things that NAGR has paid for.
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    Like any political lobby, it takes money to make changes. For one, the staff needs paid. And how effective can you be unless you have a LOT of people supporting you, so you have to solicit membership to A) pay the bills and B) convince politicians that you are a force to be reckoned with. $200K isn't much, but if you think about how well known RMGO is and their role in gun politics in Colorado then I think $200K is an impressive amount of money for that kind of exposure.

    If you have ever worked in non profit (and I have) then you know that it really is all about money, it's what keeps things moving. I don't agree with everything Dudley and his group have to say but I agree with enough of it to support RMGO - the same way I support politicians who aren't 100% on my page. If I only supported groups that agreed 100% with me then I would end up supporting nobody!

    Pick your battles - and for me fighting gun control is worth the fight. I hate a lot of what the NRA does and how they are run, but I'll support them because they have a massive voice in gun legislation. RMGO is a much smaller player, but still has a voice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
    Like any political lobby, it takes money to make changes. For one, the staff needs paid. And how effective can you be unless you have a LOT of people supporting you, so you have to solicit membership to A) pay the bills and B) convince politicians that you are a force to be reckoned with. $200K isn't much, but if you think about how well known RMGO is and their role in gun politics in Colorado then I think $200K is an impressive amount of money for that kind of exposure.
    you are correct ,thats not a lot and that is a lot of exposure , or as some would say thats a good ban for the buck .
    If you have ever worked in non profit (and I have) then you know that it really is all about money, it's what keeps things moving. I don't agree with everything Dudley and his group have to say but I agree with enough of it to support RMGO - the same way I support politicians who aren't 100% on my page. If I only supported groups that agreed 100% with me then I would end up supporting nobody!
    yes i have done a ton of non profit work (maybe thats why im so broke ) and yes it takes money to get a lot of it done . at the same time in all the rmgo emails dudley has only asked for money , not time or some sort of physical donation beyond cash!!!!really if thats the extent that one can be a part of rmgo count me out !
    Pick your battles - and for me fighting gun control is worth the fight. I hate a lot of what the NRA does and how they are run, but I'll support them because they have a massive voice in gun legislation. RMGO is a much smaller player, but still has a voice.
    i do and your welcome to join me in changing public opinion by helping clean the mess of other shooters .
    if the nra or rmgo asked me to help by putting out flyers or making call to inform people about gun rights (without asking them for money) im down .
    but the doom , sky is falling tactics dont make me want to help in the least bit .
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    im really not trying to bash rmgo or dudley but id like to see less money begging and more asking people to get involved with time spent helping out .just like everyone else i get sick of people asking for money . if thats all you expect out of the community then please dont include me in it .
    i joined coar15 to meet folks ,trade,info on shooting events ,and if possable make a small helpful impact onto the local shooting community .i have gotten that and much more and not one person has asked me for a dime .

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    Quote Originally Posted by alxone View Post
    i do and your welcome to join me in changing public opinion by helping clean the mess of other shooters .
    Every time I go shooting, my friend, every time. I always take extra bags with me because I know some idiot will have left casings, hulls, targets, things shouldn't BE targets and general garbage around. Last weekend I was at Guanella and picked up probably 1,000 .22 casings and trash all over my site - when we were done it didn't even look like someone had ever camped there (after also cleaning out the overflowing fire pits).

    Quote Originally Posted by alxone View Post
    i joined coar15 to meet folks ,trade,info on shooting events ,and if possable make a small helpful impact onto the local shooting community .i have gotten that and much more and not one person has asked me for a dime .
    Oh, and I suspect RMGO will be happy to have you volunteer instead of asking you for money . Seriously, though, if they don't ask and pester then they don't get paid. I get bugged by Childrens Hospital on a weekly basis these days because I give them a ton each year. Whatever, it's the non profit game.
    "...quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est." [...a sword never kills anybody; it's a tool in the killer's hand.] -- (Lucius Annaeus) Seneca "the Younger" (ca. 4 BC-65 AD)

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