The Third Reich

[colocowboy01]

I remember reading or hearing somewhere- Decline of the Roman Empire?
Something about the idea that a powerful society begins its' decline as soon as the people learn that they can vote themselves money and/or benefits. That's where we are. To me it has nothing to do with Hitler or Stalin or Hirohito or Mussolini. The Dems entire voting block is rooted in the fact that they are promised more money, more stuff and more benefits if they will vote/elect a Democrat.

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.

Alexander Fraser Tytler?

[Mtn.man]

We are there.

[mitch]

We are there.

Not even close. There will be elections in 2012, there were elections in 2010. Thus, we are nowhere close to a dictatorship....and we won't be until after a Gun Grab.

Having said that, we lost a LOT more of our rights under Dubya. We are just losing more of our paycheck under Obama - and unlike giving up a few amendments (we never used those rights anyway, amiright?) this paycheck action is visible immediately.

[colocowboy01]

Not even close. There will be elections in 2012, there were elections in 2010. Thus, we are nowhere close to a dictatorship....and we won't be until after a Gun Grab.

I am definitely not wanting to start a revolution or even a militia, but, do we sit back and just take another Gun Grab like we did in 1994 and hope for a 10 year sunset on an new laws? Are there legal means that we can use to subvert the upcoming executive order or whatever legal trick the D's and the R's in the government have planned for us as payback for Sen. Giffords getting shot?

[theGinsue]

SO faqr I've only made it through the first of 3 pages of this thread.

I'm 100 with Mtn Man and BPTactical and I've been saying this for 2 years - the similarities in how both Hitler and Obama have come to power are striking. As are the similarities in their narcissistic glut for power and total disregard for the true common good of the people (you know the "common good" I'm referring to, the one where the people actually have rights!).

Now, don't take my words and stretch them to believe that I'm saying that Obama has the same sinister blood lust that Hitler had. There has been no evidence of that yet. But only a fool could overlook that fact that the manner in which they both came to power, their clear desire to have MORE power than they officially possess (Obama using EO's to push his anti-gun policy is an example for BO), their nearly identical political ideologies, and on and on.

Let us not forget (and this is where I'm going to lose a lot of you that are still hanging on) that Hitler wasn't German either, he was Austrian. I still say that... well, you know what I think.

But like Mtn Man said, the similarities of BO and Hitler come more in the form of how the PEOPLE of both nations have responded to these twop individuals. One could say "same sheep, different slaughter"..

[68Charger]

I believe that most (if not all) of the similarities between BO and Hitler (or other leaders in history he's compared to) mainly stem from his narcissism...

it's a sort of collective narcissism that draws people up into it, because they want to be "on the bandwagon" he's obviously got supporters, look how much money he's already raising for 2012... a fool and their money, a sucker born every minute (fill in favorite cliche here)

One quick article I found:
http://alternate-theories.blogspot.c...ollective.html

[CrufflerSteve]

Having said that, we lost a LOT more of our rights under Dubya. We are just losing more of our paycheck under Obama - and unlike giving up a few amendments (we never used those rights anyway, amiright?) this paycheck action is visible immediately.

Bush & Cheney may have used the constitution for toilet paper but it was in a random, ad hoc way. It could have been easily reversed. Nobama is being much more thorough about making these law, if you can use law in a land where such quaint ideas don't apply to the powerful. Just utter the mantra National Security and anything goes. All executive power with no legislative or judicial oversight.

Steve

[Mtn.man]

Patriot act. Any thing that you can tell the masses to make them think it is then best interest of saftey or national security will fly.
Libtards are easily led into thinking this way.
And most of the left would like to see all Americans make the same pay, drive the same Prius, live in the same style home and have no indivuality.
I think that is what the government is striving for.
Why shouldn't we lower ourselves to that of other 3rd world countries, show that we can be a non power.
I feel for the kids and grandkids that will grow up in a world that will not have the freedoms that we had as younguns. Hell there are those on this site that did not experience what I grew up doing.

[jake]

SO faqr I've only made it through the first of 3 pages of this thread.

I'm 100 with Mtn Man and BPTactical and I've been saying this for 2 years - the similarities in how both Hitler and Obama have come to power are striking. As are the similarities in their narcissistic glut for power and total disregard for the true common good of the people (you know the "common good" I'm referring to, the one where the people actually have rights!).

Now, don't take my words and stretch them to believe that I'm saying that Obama has the same sinister blood lust that Hitler had. There has been no evidence of that yet. But only a fool could overlook that fact that the manner in which they both came to power, their clear desire to have MORE power than they officially possess (Obama using EO's to push his anti-gun policy is an example for BO), their nearly identical political ideologies, and on and on.

Let us not forget (and this is where I'm going to lose a lot of you that are still hanging on) that Hitler wasn't German either, he was Austrian. I still say that... well, you know what I think.

But like Mtn Man said, the similarities of BO and Hitler come more in the form of how the PEOPLE of both nations have responded to these twop individuals. One could say "same sheep, different slaughter"..

If they're so striking, outline them. Apart from the standard contard opinion that everyone who voted for President Obama was deluded or jumping on a bandwagon, which is a bit of a stretch (even if it were true) because Hitler was never elected, most of the similarities could be applied to anyone who came to office in a period of uncertainty, replacing an unpopular administration, with a lot of popular support, etc etc.

Therefore, despite the protestations that you're not trying to compare Obama to Hitler it seems clear that choosing Hitler for your comparison rather than, say, Reagan, or Thatcher, or Zapatero, is an attempt to directly compare the two men and find Obama guilty by association.

[Mtn.man]

I think we have an Obama lovi'n libtard on board... LOL

Or at least someone who fuk'd up and voted for him.