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    Default NFA For Dummies?

    Is there a site where I could learn about NFA issues so I won't ask too many dumb questions. I've been building some AK kits and one really wans to be short barreled. I also have a 10/22 that I'd like to convert to a suppressed Hush Puppy rifle.

    My main questions are:

    1. Individual or trust? I can see the advantages of a trust if I kick the bucket and am interested in the cheapest way to do it.

    2. Is Douglas county friendly to this? SBR and Suppressed?

    3. I have heard that if a gun starts as a long stock and gets converted into an AOW the stock has to stay long, not folding. Is this true? It makes no sense to me but virtually none of the gun regs do.

    Steve

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    1. Up to you. Cheapest is a Quicken Willmaker trust or similar, but you're basically on your own specializing, amending or altering it if the boilerplate's not excactly what you need. I know of no problems with the basic quicken trust in CO, though.

    2. Doesn't matter for a trust, but I've heard of no problems for signoffs in Douglas Co. Signoff may be going away this year, anyway, reportedly.

    3. You can't really turn a long gun into an AOW, because it'd be a firearm "made from a rifle", and the rifle definition usually includes most of the changes people try to make which would result in a handgun being classified as an AOW. If it was assembled into a firearm with a stock, then shortening it only makes it an SBR or SBS, and adding foregrips, etc is allowed for rifles or shotguns.

    The AOW classification is reserved for firearms that don't meet the statutory definition of a handgun, rifle or shotgun. The most common example is what would otherwise be a rifle, but with no stock (making it not a rifle or shotgun, which are defined as being made to be fired from the shoulder), and a vertical foregrip (giving it more than one handgrip at an angle to the bore, while the statutory definition of handgun states a handgun can have only ONE handgrip). It's not a rifle because it was not designed to be fired from the shoulder (no stock), and it's not a handgun because it has two grips - so it gets classified as "Any Other Weapon".

    At best you can turn a previously assembled rifle into an SBR, if removing the stock makes it <26" OAL, or the barrel is reduced to <16".
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    Download The "ATF National Firearms Act Handbook" (ATF P320.
    8) -
    http://www.atf.gov/publications/firearms/nfa-handbook/

    It has laws, regulations, and procedures in kinda plain language. The appendixes have the actual laws and regulations.

    It's a place to start and it's direct from th ATF. The ATF website has a lot useful information if you can find it.

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