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    I don't know all the differences but they are substantially smaller than the Tomcat. Same basic design, though.
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    Are you sure? The Tomcat and Bobcat are the same size. Looking at forums, some people have issues with cracking cases. Supposed to be under 130 grain load, some people are using 32+P

    Bersa Thunder is same size as Sig 232. My point is that you may as well carry 40 cal 239, its only .5 inch taller and 10 lbs heavier. 232 would about fit in a good fanny pack for all time carry, so thats something to look into.

    Them also say that Tomcat has heavy trigger pull for DA, (can't you cock it back?) I guess nothing is perfect, the way to go for true reliability is to get 2 of them. People also complain they are 'heavy' which means metal, (go with titanium then buck)

    I think the Sig 239 is probably also good just for knocking someone out with it by hitting them, it would be like a small truck right there.

    Nothing Special did a youtube .22 review, and he shot through like 3 phone books. Not that thats what you want, but I would not want to get hit with 3 or 4 .22's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocktot View Post
    Whats the diff from a 'jetfire', they looks the same.
    Was wondering same thing.

    I feel it's better to be undergunned than to have no gun at all. So if you carry it everyday and you wouldn't carry a full size everyday, well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocktot View Post
    Maybe its a matter of finding the right ammo. They make a Titanium model Tomcat. Whats the diff from a 'jetfire', they looks the same.
    Tomcat, Bobcat, and Jetfire are all similar but different. They are all subcompact Berettas with tip-up barrels.

    Jetfire is 25ACP, SAO, and the thinnest, lightest, and most reliable of the three. The triggerguard looks funky because it is the mainspring.

    Bobcat is available in .22LR or .25ACP and is DA/SA. It is thicker and heavier, but triggerguard looks cleaner because it is part of the frame. DA is nice, but there have been issues with breakage on some guns. If you ever have a choice between a 25ACP or a 22LR in a subcompact automatic, ALWAYS choose the 25 for maximum reliability.

    Tomcat is a slightly larger and heavier version of the Bobcat chambered for .32 ACP.

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    As a lefty, I was able to press the mag release when I squeezed very tightly on the gun on both a .25 Jetfire and the .22 Model 21A. I assumed it was no different on the .32, as it has the same mag release location. That's why I never bothered to buy one and wring it out.

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