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Thanks for sharing, honestly. And shit man, tell your fellow believers..umm...participants in Satanism to change the name and you will have a crowd from the sounds of it.
I don't think there's anything wrong with telling someone "Hey, I've discovered a wonderful way to live and believe ... it makes me happy and works real well for me, so if you're looking for something you might give this a go." Where it breaks down is when they reply "No thank you." and you don't just drop it.Originally Posted by bellavite1
I just don't believe that I would be well received at your door trying to convince you you wasted your life believing in something that it is not there and feeling guilty for desires and feelings that are natural to any human being.
It gets a little more personal than my Spaghetti alla Carbonara recipe...
As far as your description of a Satanist, it is fairly accurate, but it gets a little deeper than that (see above).
As a Christian I am only given one job by God and that is to spread the Gospel (which is Greek for "Good News" ... and who could object to Good News?).
Over the years too many Christians have twisted that to mean they need to force conversions and/or beat people over the head with the entire teachings of Christ (or even worse, harangue people over their sins). This is demonstrably wrong ... basically all I should do is offer to share what I know and not pester people further that aren't interested (but you're not going to know who is not interested if you don't ask).
This brings me back to my original point. Satanists and Christians can easily be neighbors ... share a meal ... have kids that play together in the park... engage in commerce, etc. Same thing goes for Buddhists, Hindus, Jews, Zoroastrians etc.
There is only ONE kid that can't play nice in the sandbox and still be in obedience to their own religion, and that's Mohammad's crew.
Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".
"Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
"Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
-Penn Jillette
A World Without Guns <- Great Read!
Truer words were never spoken. I politely ask Jehova's Witnesses to leave my property, I'm not interested, they still try to push their ideals on me until I say "I asked nicely, please leave, I'm not interested.... I own guns..."
When the day comes that some towel headed, camel sodomizer arrives at my house with his message of "convert or die" I won't ask him to leave politely!
Satanism (while the name is misleading) sure doesn't sound all too bad, be happy, live, die, provide for new life. Sounds to me like what happened to Paganism during the era of Roman Catholic purge... Pagan=Satan, therefore evil. When in real life, Paganism is the sacred worship of Earth and all living things (with more respect given to women than most religions of that time). Hence why I really like, and consider following Norse Paganism. Besides, Mohammad thinks he soo cool with his Wahhabi bandits... try and face off against guys named Odin, Thor, Tyr and Frigg (names still in use today BTW: Odin's Day= Wednesday, Tyr's Day= Tuesday, Thor's Day= Thursday, Frigg's Day= Friday).
"There is no news in the truth, and no truth in the news."
"The revolution will not be televised... Instead it will be filmed from multiple angles via cell phone cameras, promptly uploaded to YouTube, Tweeted about, and then shared on Facebook, pending a Wi-Fi connection."
Well, this has proven the concept of never talking about religion, sex or politics. I think the only reason why most of our political discussions don't go like this is because most of us are on the same side of the fence on it.
I choose many paths and accept many things in my life. I accept that gays can do whatever with whomever they want and I choose to believe they will burn for it - this being said I have quite a few gay friends who I adore but just don't agree with. I accept that liberals are entitled to their view but I believe they are wrong and I choose to not associate with them. I accept bellavite1 (meaning Beautiful Vine) has every right to believe in and practice Satanism but I choose to disassociate myself with Satanists - and while bellavite1 paints a very rosy picture of Satanism, I can tell you I knew many where I grew up who were true occultists and even as an athiest at the time I found it a foul practice. This isn't to say the bellavite1 is an occultist - by his own admission - perhaps it is just my own ignorance towards their non occultist practices that keeps me from acceptance of it.
So, that being said, and pointing back to the original theme of the thread, all of these folks have a right to believe in what they want, including the Islamist. And, Ronin, if they do "rise up" and defeat us then while it is a sad day it is "destiny" (and not in the God meaning of that word), perhaps that destiny is what causes the sheeple to actually stand up and fight for their rights - and maybe this isn't a bad thing. I have had my fill of killing to go and start a new crusade against Islam for no other reason than the Quran.
You know, the Bible says "go forth and make Christians of all nations" and while there are some religious believers that do, the vast majority do not (and really, how harmful is it to do so?), how can I believe that Muslims don't do the same thing and sit on the fence on certain scriptural topics like killing all who do not believe? Wasn't there a movie about judging those who were going to commit a crime before it ever happened - Minority Report?
When we see the uprising of Islam in the U.S. and get much closer to the brink then I'm right there with you Ronin, I'll gladly man my weapon and die free (which also goes for the threat to any of my other rights as well), but until then I'm not going to commit genocide just in case.
"...quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est." [...a sword never kills anybody; it's a tool in the killer's hand.] -- (Lucius Annaeus) Seneca "the Younger" (ca. 4 BC-65 AD)
“I regret that I have but one life to lose for my country.” ~ Nathan Hale (final words before being hanged by the British, September 22, 1776.)
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you guys are wildly racist against muslims.........lot of misinformation in here all the muslims i know are just normal dudes not part of some sort of terrorist network lots of fox news watchers in here
Well then its okay, because you're muslim friends are super cool. Look up Anjem Choudary. He wants our blood in the name of Islam, as a Muslim. If I'm racist because I guard a set of ideals and a lifestyle in this country that I love, sign this brother up, I'm a racist in your eyes and it really doesn't matter to me what you think. Muslims are racist too, anything not Muslim is 'less than' and must submit or else...
Look up Fred Phelps, etc etc. I try not to judge an entire group on a YouTube video made by one particular crackpot.
"A lot of people seem obliged to have a viewpoint."
Islam is not to be trusted. PERIOD
I know a gent from the eastern coast of Africa, he is Christian. We were discussing Islam one day and he made an interesting statement. "Americans don't understand, you are being quietly invaded by Muslims. I had many many Muslims that I knew at home and while they may claim to be a friend they will always be Muslim and unless you are, you are less, an Infidel."
I was just listening to a very interesting oration on the Mosque uproar in TN. Over one hundred mosques in the US were covertly infiltrated by US entities. They were monitored for adherence to Sharia law and reference and support to Jihaad.
Eighty one out of one hundred exhibited adherence to Sharia and support for Jihaad.
81 out of 100.
Kind of like southeast Asia. Out of 38 species or so of snakes 35 are venomous. How do you tell the venomous ones apart from the non?
With that kind of ratio you can't afford to be cautious.
The most important thing to be learned from those who demand "Equality For All" is that all are not equal...
Gun Control - seeking a Hardware solution for a Software problem...
Islam is not a race.
You lose.
Furthermore, if there is a "lot of misinformation in here" on Islam, I challenge you to point it out ... please cite Sura and Verse.
The difference is, I can prove within the context of Christian teaching that Fred Phelps is wrong. Likewise I can prove that within the context of Islamic teaching that Anjem Choudary's position is both correct and mainstream.
I think the overall point I keep trying to get to is that one of the wonderful things about Western Civilization is pluralism ... religious freedom ... tolerance. Islam is incompatible with these things and thus is incompatible with Western Civilization. One or the other will have to yield.
Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".
"Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
"Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
-Penn Jillette
A World Without Guns <- Great Read!
Please look up the definition of the term racist. Being a racist implies you feel your race is superior to another. So to talk about religion, and more to the point, a societal belief structure, (Islam is a societal belief structure, not a religion) has nothing at all to do with racism. Muslims make it a point to tell westerners that not all muslims are the same race. So by definition alone, to call people on here racist for not agreeing with Islam is bullshit.
Furthermore, there is all this talk about our constitutional rights, and the freedom of religion. To say that not allowing a societal belief structure into our country is not the same as denying a religion. Part of the bill of rights and the constitution that should be common sense, is the fact all rights are based on you living within our laws. Those who chose to live outside our laws forfeit said rights. Basically, you have those rights as long as they do not infringe on other peoples rights. If we are to believe what we are told, Islam infringes on our laws and our rights.
I know quite a few Muslims, and they are nice people. I will admit, i am always waiting for the other shoe to drop though.
I personally have a belief system that is based heavily in Asatru. (Norse paganism) Though i grew up a Christian. When one looks at religions of the world there is a common thread in all of them. Christians call it the golden rule, do unto others, as you would have others do unto you. Every religion, eastern ones as well, have this common sense view of right and wrong. They also have the same view of humans being mistake prone. And all state that when you make those mistake you seek to better yourself.
All religions, except Islam that is. I have not read the full Qua' ran, but I have read enough. It plainly states, which was quoted above, that all infidels are to be converted, or killed. And it is the only religious text, that I have knowledge of, that states such a thing.
Edited to add:
Further thought on quoted text leads me to believe it is the most racist statement in this thread. Obviously, you are the one here that believes all Muslims are middle eastern.
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