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    At least atheists wouldn't kill millions of people in the name of religion.

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    Unlike Islam, I don't care what others practice in this country. If they just want to practice any religion, peacefully, I have zero problem. But I go back to Zundfolges statement, they don't want to practice Islam peacefully here. They want to instill it in our culture, erase whats ours, and make us SUBMIT.


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    It is TN so I wouldn't be surprised to see these guys show up


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    That's kind of my point. Freedom of religion only works if all religions are ok with peaceful coexistence. Once you have one religion that orders its adherents to kill or convert everyone, then that freedom doesn't work (and don't give me this crap about how Christianity is just as bad. ANYONE who tries to force anyone else to convert to Christianity is BREAKING THE RULES of Christianity ... whereas the Rules of Islam ORDER Muslims to kill or convert everyone). But freedom of religion is a basic tenant of western culture (one I happen to like a lot) so we're in a catch 22 with Islam.

    That is just assinine. Clearly you know nothing about Christianity, human history or any other world religion for that matter.


    Yeah because Atheists would never commit mass murder (pay no attention to the hundreds of millions murdered in the 20th century by Atheist Communists).

    Ya, now I'm an atheist? Didn't know that. I'll go tell my family now.
    No, I'm not an atheist, but my personal opinion on organized religion is not a good one. Was it needed at some point in history? Possibly, but that is debateable. The way it looks to me now is a propaganda tool to get the votes of the feeble minded that believe whatever they hear, and to push a personal agenda on other people while at the same time wasting money on pointless causes.

    And I guess I'm just some ol moron that knows nothing about world history or religion. I really should get my money back for those theology classes. I admit I probably mis-spoke when I said that christianity was the bloodiest thing, while I should have said religion in general. Yes, that is debatable also with the world wars, slave trade, and wars fought over land/politics, etc. It can't be denied though that throughout history millions upon millions have been killed in the name of organized religion. Many for the simple problem of symantics. The "my god is better than yours" or the "convert or die" excuse gets old after a few thousand years. Hence my complete lack of faith in any type of organized religion. Although it may be wrong in christianity to "force to convert", a very large amount of the christians in the past didn't get that memo.

    Having a law/ban/whatever you want to call it on the books would be just another step into destroying this country.

    I was playing the devils advocate, I could give two squirts of warm piss what religion someone is. I do think being called a godless moron was a bit uncalled for though. There are two sides to everything, and if you believe that christianity is peaceful and doesn't have an extremely bloody history, you need to do some reasearch.


    I'm done with this subject, it can be argued endlessly until everyone is dead from old age or boredom. (or religious war!! (just kidding ))

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    Religion wasn't the cause of anything, it is just a scape goat.
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    religion is a tool for the greedy to manipulate the masses.


    "it is God's will!"

    or

    "God is Great!"


    regardless.
    Murder in the name of any religion only serves to prostitute the faithful.

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    It is not so much the Muslim/Islamic religion that has TN in a tizzy but rather the Sharia law that accompanies it. There was a story today on a Judge that passed some ruling how Sharia law is contrary to US law and therefore has no standing. Kudos to the Judge.
    Islam is kind of all inclusive in that it is not just a religion but a system of beliefs on how one should live life and laws to abide by.

    I have no problem with somebody practicing their version of religion but when beliefs of said religion are so against common values then yes, it is a problem.
    Beliefs such as beheading those that are not of the same faith, stoning your women for trivial reasons etc.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier View Post
    At least atheists wouldn't kill millions of people in the name of religion.

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    Sorry to tell you, but technically atheism IS a religion.
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    Islam is a religion of peace...

    (warning: graphic)
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dd3_1310954791

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    That video was just beautiful and peaceful.

    Political correctness is allowing the enemy to set up shop right in our back yards. I do not think that our founding fathers considered that a religious sect would be so determined to destroy everyone other than those who were Muslim.

    Until I see Muslims coming forward condemning acts of violence against us, and they thoroughly convince me. My guard is up.

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