Mosque ban in TN

[UberTong]

Islam is not a race.

You lose.

Furthermore, if there is a "lot of misinformation in here" on Islam, I challenge you to point it out ... please cite Sura and Verse.



The difference is, I can prove within the context of Christian teaching that Fred Phelps is wrong. Likewise I can prove that within the context of Islamic teaching that Anjem Choudary's position is both correct and mainstream.


I think the overall point I keep trying to get to is that one of the wonderful things about Western Civilization is pluralism ... religious freedom ... tolerance. Islam is incompatible with these things and thus is incompatible with Western Civilization. One or the other will have to yield.

Thank you, again you are spot on Zundfolge and bptactical as well. Couldn't have said it any better.

[jake]

The difference is, I can prove within the context of Christian teaching that Fred Phelps is wrong. Likewise I can prove that within the context of Islamic teaching that Anjem Choudary's position is both correct and mainstream.

But can you prove that all Muslims adhere to the same position? If they do, even the ones who live in the West and have pretty much integrated into our way of life, we're talking about a conspiracy of silence without equal.

[jake]

I'm confuzzled.

I accept that gays can do whatever with whomever they want and I choose to believe they will burn for it

Look up Fred Phelps

The difference is, I can prove within the context of Christian teaching that Fred Phelps is wrong.

Thank you, again you are spot on Zundfolge and bptactical as well. Couldn't have said it any better.

[Zundfolge]

But can you prove that all Muslims adhere to the same position? If they do, even the ones who live in the West and have pretty much integrated into our way of life, we're talking about a conspiracy of silence without equal.

A Muslim that does not adhere to the Koran's position on infidels, jihad and the call for a global caliphate may call themselves a Muslim but they are as much of a Muslim (that being one who submits to Allah) as someone that claims to be a Christian but believes that there was no Jesus.

I guess one could hold out hope for some sort of "Islamic Reformation" but it would probably require a new prophet. Maybe someone could appear on the scene that most Muslims accept as the Mahdi ... but instead of ushering in Armageddon they instead turn Islam back toward a path of peaceful coexistance with non Muslims. Of course this would make about as much sense as Christ returning and telling all Christians to become Buddhists.

[jerrymrc]

I do not normally weigh in on topics of religion since I am somewhat of a weird mixed bag. (think the christian and buddist have a kid)

I do invite everyone to spend a year or more in the sandbox and then form your opinion. I will leave it at that.

[BPTactical]

Personally I am glad to see some hackles get raised.
The American Dream and lifestyle incrementally destroyed because we have become a country of pussies.
We are being forced to accept everybody else's way of life while ours is lost.
We are watching America slowly turn into a third world shithole.
We secure other countries borders and not our own.
We have an administration that is trying their dammed best to "Fundamentally Change America".
We have become a country of compromise instead of strength.
We were the strongest manufacturing base and now we can't even seem to make a lightbulb.

Its about time somebody got some balls and said something.


This is America and we are Americans.
If you don't like it you have two choices.
Both involve leaving America.
One by your own power.
One by six.

You decide

[sneakerd]

I say that a locality should be able to say no to a mosque. I sure as hell don't want one anywhere near me.

[Zundfolge]

a whole bunch of good stuff that I'm using as a jumping of point but not leaving quoted for the sake of space

As I've said in the past, Political Correctness = Cultural Suicide.

Because of PC we've forgot that the word "discriminate" has multiple meanings.

dis·crim·i·nate
verb \dis-ˈkri-mə-ˌnāt\

1 a : to make a distinction <discriminate among historical sources>
b : to use good judgment
2 : to make a difference in treatment or favor on a basis other than individual merit <discriminate in favor of your friends> <discriminate against a certain nationality>

The politically correct have spent so much energy trying so hard not to do definition 2 that they become incapable of definition 1 (especially 1b).

[BPTactical]

I sure as hell don't want one anywhere near me.

Too late here, my old dentist office 4 blocks away from me is now a Mosque.
Since 9/11 there have been in excess of 3000 building permits issued for Mosque's in the US.
In contrast there have been about 400 for traditional churches/chapels/synagogues.

Do the math.

[UberTong]

Personally I am glad to see some hackles get raised.
The American Dream and lifestyle incrementally destroyed because we have become a country of pussies.
We are being forced to accept everybody else's way of life while ours is lost.
We are watching America slowly turn into a third world shithole.
We secure other countries borders and not our own.
We have an administration that is trying their dammed best to "Fundamentally Change America".
We have become a country of compromise instead of strength.
We were the strongest manufacturing base and now we can't even seem to make a lightbulb.

Its about time somebody got some balls and said something.


This is America and we are Americans.
If you don't like it you have two choices.
Both involve leaving America.
One by your own power.
One by six.

You decide

BP, You could not be more spot on...you just vocalized my feelings and said it better than I could have, thank you.

I'm confuzzled.

Jake, you are probably confused because I didn't say what you quoted me for:
Originally Posted by ubertong
I accept that gays can do whatever with whomever they want and I choose to believe they will burn for it

Before you quote me, make sure its me. I believe Zundfolge made the above comment.