Gunwalker and Fast & Furious were nothing...

[Milt]

The 'hard reset' is inevitable and will be of the government's own making. Even if the 'jobless recovery' should miraculously become a real recovery, the inevitable interest rate increases that will occur after the Federal Reserve runs out of artificial rate-depression tricks will rapidly turn the $14 trillion plus deficit into an economic dead weight larger than the current budget. The prime rate was a little over 17% as recently as 1980 - do the math at a mere 5%. They will then either openly default (not likely) or resort to massive 'quantitative easing' (hyper-inflation) to 'pay' the interest. Either of those options shuts down the economy and the government. Hopefully the survivors of that mess will have better sense than to go down that road again.

What really needs to happen is for a sufficient percentage of the population (not a majority, but rather an armed and determined minority) to disabuse themselves of the notion that some people have the 'right' or authority to tell others how to live. Until the ideal of self-ownership suggested in the Declaration of Independence becomes society's guiding principle, we are doomed to repeated collapse cycles - natural law will eventually reassert itself no matter how vigorous a society's denial of reality.

[Ronin13]

Everyone keeps talking about a hard reset, but I think I'm correct in saying not a single one of you will take those necessary first steps in actually DOING it. I know I don't want to go to jail for inciting a revolution- especially if it fails, then I'll be hanged, shot, injected and beheaded... but if that sliver of success looms my way I could be seen as the next Washington or Jefferson. Walk the talk, somebody... please!

[Byte Stryke]

Everyone keeps talking about a hard reset, but I think I'm correct in saying not a single one of you will take those necessary first steps in actually DOING it. I know I don't want to go to jail for inciting a revolution- especially if it fails, then I'll be hanged, shot, injected and beheaded... but if that sliver of success looms my way I could be seen as the next Washington or Jefferson. Walk the talk, somebody... please!

funny thing that "hard reset" everyone speaks of.

If a violent revolt succeeds its patriotism.

If it fails, its terrorism and you get hung out.

[Ronin13]

funny thing that "hard reset" everyone speaks of.

If a violent revolt succeeds its patriotism.

If it fails, its terrorism and you get hung out.

Right!? That's what's so screwed up. And the sheeple would be much too blind to see if the failed revolt happens. They'd call it "homegrown terrorism," and go on about their daily lives not actually listening to the call for defending freedom.

[hollohas]

If one American citizen is killed by one of these weapons, the "public servants" involved should be treated as traitors. And dealt with accordingly. This country has put to death spies that had done alot less.

Have you been under a rock? Kidding, but really, at least one has been killed already and that's how this scandal broke...

The full detailed story - http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/...in;contentBody

December 14, 2010. The place: a dangerous smuggling route in Arizona not far from the border. A special tactical border squad was on patrol when gunfire broke out and agent Brian Terry was killed.

The assault rifles found at the murder were traced back to a U.S. gun shop. Where they came from and how they got there is a scandal so large, some insiders say it surpasses the shoot-out at Ruby Ridge and the deadly siege at Waco.

In late 2009, ATF was alerted to suspicious buys at seven gun shops in the Phoenix area. Suspicious because the buyers paid cash, sometimes brought in paper bags. And they purchased classic "weapons of choice" used by Mexican drug traffickers - semi-automatic versions of military type rifles and pistols.

Sources tell CBS News several gun shops wanted to stop the questionable sales, but ATF encouraged them to continue.

Jaime Avila was one of the suspicious buyers. ATF put him in its suspect database in January of 2010. For the next year, ATF watched as Avila and other suspects bought huge quantities of weapons supposedly for "personal use." They included 575 AK-47 type semi-automatic rifles.

Then, Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was murdered. The serial numbers on the two assault rifles found at the scene matched two rifles ATF watched Jaime Avila buy in Phoenix nearly a year before. Officials won't answer whether the bullet that killed Terry came from one of those rifles. But the nightmare had come true: "walked" guns turned up at a federal agent's murder.

Edit: Added link to Congress report. http://oversight.house.gov/images/st...ATF_Report.pdf

[Zundfolge]

Have you been under a rock? Kidding, but really, at least one has been killed already and that's how this scandal broke...

I think he was referring to the military weapons sold to the Zetas by the State Dept., not the civilian weapons sold to other Mexican gangs by the ATF.

[nynco]

I think the Obama administration is wrong for doing this. I hope that those who did this will be brought to justice.

[Irving]

Everyone keeps talking about a hard reset, but I think I'm correct in saying not a single one of you will take those necessary first steps in actually DOING it. I know I don't want to go to jail for inciting a revolution- especially if it fails, then I'll be hanged, shot, injected and beheaded... but if that sliver of success looms my way I could be seen as the next Washington or Jefferson. Walk the talk, somebody... please!

I can provide you with a list of members who are exactly of who you are talking about.

[Byte Stryke]

I can provide you with a list of members who are exactly of who you are talking about.

I always knew you were dangerous...
you and Ginsue

[Irving]

I meant collaborators by the way, not revolutionists. I don't know any of those guys.