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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I think he was referring to the military weapons sold to the Zetas by the State Dept., not the civilian weapons sold to other Mexican gangs by the ATF.
    Ah, touche. But does it really matter if the guns came from gun stores or military warehouses? They facilitated both. There are indications that the straw purchasers were using at least some money given by the US too...

    This whole thing has me red in the face. How is this not more of a media focus? Just a minute or two of coverage here and there. 50% of the media coverage should be on this...this is an enormous scandal of epic proportions and seems it may go all the way to the top. And I don't just say that because it involves guns, but because it involves hundreds if not thousands of lives. Maybe only one or two US agents killed with these guns but thousands have been killed in Mexico likely by these guns. And the worst part is they used this to fabricate a story and a path to infringe upon or constitutional rights.

    How many cartels have been squashed after they tracked these guns they fed them? None I'm guessing. Leads me to believe they weren't doing it to track the guns at all, but for only one reason...to create outrage on an international scale that would open the door for more gun control in the USA.

    If they hadn't been caught, they would have used this to push much worse measures on gun control than simply reporting multiple long gun purchases...which is bad enough they are doing that shit even after they were outed as fabricating the whole thing.

    Watergate and Monica Lewinsky ain't got shit on this scandal. Every Capitol Hill hearing regarding this issue should have live news coverage. Every person that stalls, lies, covers up, stonewalls, singed off, turned a blind eye or otherwise allowed this to happen should have criminal charges brought against them. Every agency that stonewalls or covers up one shred of evidence should be cleaned out.

    This is BS and you can bet it will get swept under the rug before everyone involved gets outed and not one person will go to jail.

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    It's pretty bad when you need a score card to keep track of which US government agency is trafficking guns to which criminal gang in what country...


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