Islam on capital Hill

[Ridge]

I don't have to like it. Lets luv our enemies and give them what they want, then when they blow us up we can all pray together.
Or at least teach them how to make them suicide bombs work 100% of the time.

So, in order to overcome our enemies, we should give up what makes us better than them?

"Those who would give up freedoms for temporary safety deserve neither." - Benjamin Franklin

[nynco]

I don't have to like it. Lets luv our enemies and give them what they want, then when they blow us up we can all pray together.
Or at least teach them how to make them suicide bombs work 100% of the time.

So what you are saying is all Muslims and Arabs are our enemies. If that is the case, why are we in Iraq "liberating" them? While I don't like extremist Muslims one bit, I have known many good Muslims. Are there problems with Islam, sure... but in my opinion their society is in what will be termed their form of the dark ages. Just like Christianity was a pile garbage in the middle ages. If you want to fix the problem, you have to help people do the right thing.

Love your neighbor right.... meh what ever

[Byte Stryke]

actually I believe the point is, that in accordance with the laws of Islam we are their enemies, regardless of our feelings about them.

for further explanation see signature:

[nynco]

actually I believe the point is, that in accordance with the laws of Islam we are their enemies, regardless of our feelings about them.

for further explanation see signature:

Christianity was once interpreted that way too. The dark ages were the same for us as today is for many of them.

As an example at one point in time the opening words of the Koran were interpreted in a much different way. I can't remember the specifics of it. Came from a book I read a long time ago on the history and changes.

But at one point the opening words of the Quran were interpreted as God (Allah) created the world for you to learn in. But today it is interpreted as the only thing you need to learn is within the Quran.

[Mtn.man]

Hey kiss their asses if you want I don't have too. Be PC because that is the way you have been indoctorinated. Believe me you are losing your rights that I had when I was young, But you don't really care.

This Country Was Founded By White Men With Guns.

[nynco]

Hey kiss their asses if you want I don't have too. Be PC because that is the way you have been indoctorinated. Believe me you are losing your rights that I had when I was young, But you don't really care.

This Country Was Founded By White Men With Guns.

So how am I losing my rights by letting all Americans have the same rights as I to practice their chosen religion?

So far all you got is you hate muzzies. Not much other than that. Which tells me you don't understand the US Constitution at all on this issue. The Constitution protects freedom of religion, there is no rider in there to say except Muslims.

As to white guys with guns....... so what.

[islandermyk]

In a few words I can only say that both a handful of Muslim and Christian faiths/bible thumpers in this world are hypocrites.
Sorry to offend anyone...
The other thing I look at is the different mentalities of our world.
In this beautiful country of the U.S.A. it's more than likely that a person is in their religion due to family, friends, mainstream ideas, etc.. we are allowed options with no fear of persecution.
Now think of the Middle East... you almost think that the people there really don't have an option.
Now putting that all aside... I've always thought that mixing politics and religion or using religion in politics is a bad thing for many reasons... but who am I to say...

[Drilldov2.0]

BAM.

I cannot argue with that logic.

I can. The problem with that post is that is a list Nationalities, not religion. Islam is a religion. I have no problem with them praying wherever they wish. The problem with Islam I have is that there is also a troublesome part of governing of the people written into their beliefs. Sharia law. That makes it unacceptable to allow them to "pray" wherever they wish and eliminates their constitutional right to freedom of religion, since it is not actually a religion, but a form of government antithetical to the very core of which this country was founded upon.

[nynco]

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Now think of the Middle East... you almost think that the people there really don't have an option.
Now putting that all aside... I've always thought that mixing politics and religion or using religion in politics is a bad thing for many reasons... but who am I to say...

Well said on the first. As to the last part. The middle east is a mess partly because religion and gov are nearly the same thing. The more the US lets religion into our gov the more messed up it becomes. There is no logic or reasoning with faith. And when faith goes wrong, what then?

[nynco]

I can. The problem with that post is that is a list Nationalities, not religion. Islam is a religion. I have no problem with them praying wherever they wish. The problem with Islam I have is there is also is a troublesome part of governing of the people written into their beliefs. Sharia law. That makes it unacceptable to allow them to "pray" wherever they wish and eliminates their constitutional right to freedom of religion, since it is not actually a religion, but a form of government antithetical to the very core of which this country was founded upon.

Christianity was once a form of gov too. All the way up until the founding of this nation. The founding fathers rightfully feared religion intertwined with gov in any form. Christians also argued that it was written in the bible that gov was to be the realm of the church at one time too. As to the Muslims and their problems. Well, its better to work with them to change and grow past the problems than start another crusade.

If you want to learn something about many of the founders of this nation look up what "Deists" are. It deals with how many of them viewed religion.