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    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    Not all, but let me tell you, there are some loons out there. I also think that Islamic extremists are a huge problem too. I just think its counter productive to treat all Muslims like they are. Islam is in their dark ages.
    Trying to compare a handful of religious zealots to the Nation if Islam is wrong. One hand is a few crazies and the other are millions doing exactly what the religion says to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    While fighting fire with fire might win temporary battles, eventually you have to figure out a way to end the firefight. So unless you are willing to go out and commit genocide on 2 billion people..... what do you do?
    What do you do? You don't permit them free reign of your country that's their self professed #1 enemy so they can actively add recruits from your people. You preserve your government and your way of life against ALL enemies and this includes the painfully obvious (to most) ones.

    Keep in mind that the 1st amendment protecting someone's right to freedom of religion w/o persecution wouldn't exist in Sharia law which is what would rule the nation if Islam were to take over the way their scripture teaches. Ironic, don't ya think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    Keep in mind that the 1st amendment protecting someone's right to freedom of religion w/o persecution wouldn't exist in Sharia law which is what would rule the nation if Islam were to take over the way their scripture teaches. Ironic, don't ya think?
    Freedom of Religion does exist in America and the last thing I want to do is for this nation become more like the bad things you see in them. Until beliefs become action there is no law broken. We should never prosecute someone for thoughts alone. Its downright Orwellian. So until the Muslim breaks a law, they have just as much right as you do to the 1st Amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    Freedom of Religion does exist in America and the last thing I want to do is for this nation become more like the bad things you see in them. Until beliefs become action there is no law broken. We should never prosecute someone for thoughts alone. Its downright Orwellian. So until the Muslim breaks a law, they have just as much right as you do to the 1st Amendment.
    Great logic... let's arrest someone after they martyr themselves with a nuclear weapon outside the Capitol in D.C.! Let's not arrest and investigate a group of guys claiming they are the tip of the sword for Jihad in America, but they haven't acted yet! Oh and let's not forget, the Koran teaches them to lie in wait until they are strong enough to defeat their enemies, it's happened before, hence why until Post-WWII Muslim Arabs ruled Jerusalem, and not the European Christians. So you keep avoiding facing the problem until their knife is slowly entering your back. Me, I'm going to continue to struggle with this massive conundrum because I don't want to become what we formed this country against, but then again if nothing is done we will lose once they gain enough strength. France is already dealing with it, in just 15 years they WILL become an Islamic republic- there are figures out there and if you look at the Muslim population increase from the last 10 years you'll see it's only a matter of time until Muslims are the majority there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    France is already dealing with it, in just 15 years they WILL become an Islamic republic- there are figures out there and if you look at the Muslim population increase from the last 10 years you'll see it's only a matter of time until Muslims are the majority there.
    Bearing in mind that it's been illegal to collect information about race and religion in the French census for about 100 years, but that recent unofficial polling suggests that less than 10% of the population is Islamic, perhaps you'd like to furnish us with some evidence to support the claim that in 15 years France is going to be an Islamic republic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jake View Post
    Bearing in mind that it's been illegal to collect information about race and religion in the French census for about 100 years, but that recent unofficial polling suggests that less than 10% of the population is Islamic, perhaps you'd like to furnish us with some evidence to support the claim that in 15 years France is going to be an Islamic republic.
    I don't have the exact links, but an EU immigration committee found that over 20% of the population of France is Islamic, and they have average 5.8 kids per family, whereas the "non-Muslim" French families are comprised of 1.4 kids... that just proves when maturity comes around the Islamic families will be larger, thus bigger population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Great logic... let's arrest someone after they martyr themselves with a nuclear weapon outside the Capitol in D.C.! Let's not arrest and investigate a group of guys claiming they are the tip of the sword for Jihad in America, but they haven't acted yet! Oh and let's not forget, the Koran teaches them to lie in wait until they are strong enough to defeat their enemies, it's happened before, hence why until Post-WWII Muslim Arabs ruled Jerusalem, and not the European Christians. So you keep avoiding facing the problem until their knife is slowly entering your back. Me, I'm going to continue to struggle with this massive conundrum because I don't want to become what we formed this country against, but then again if nothing is done we will lose once they gain enough strength. France is already dealing with it, in just 15 years they WILL become an Islamic republic- there are figures out there and if you look at the Muslim population increase from the last 10 years you'll see it's only a matter of time until Muslims are the majority there.
    Those are not thoughts... those are actions. Does not matter if they carry through on those actions to the end. They are still the same thing as actions. We don't arrest people for thinking of killing someone do we? We arrest them for attempted murder. Which is an action.

    France is fucked for many reasons. Having a too liberal immigration policy is one. Why do you think they are fighting Kadafi? To hopefully send those people back.

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