Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
Why do you guys who are against universal healthcare automatically assume all systems are like Canada or England? We are the only industrialized nation without universal healthcare. There are countless other systems out there to look at too. We have the benefit of being able to learn from all the systems as to what works and what does not. Obamas remedy was horrible in my opinion. He did not change any of the root rot. He only made it worse by forcing Americans to have to buy into the current mess.

Equal rights for gays and abortion rights.... well the real conservative (not religious right position) is to let the individual decide. I agree with people like Barry Goldwater on these issues.
because I fly with guys from multiple countries and all have said the systems from their home countries are much worse, and to get anything taken care of quickly it was at a large out of pocket expense. I will believe the people I fly with and work with above what I read on the internet.

I also work with a lot of gays, and most of them are really good people who don't push their lifestyle and beliefs on you. we see a lot of the extremism from their side on tv or in the news just as they see our baby killing machine gun murderers on the news as well. I honestly don't care what they do as long as they are trying to push their beliefs all over me.

as for abortion rights, I used to lean a bit more toward the left on that issue and be more along side with womens rights. but now with a baby on the way and watching how fast things progress and watching that little person being developed inside a woman, I feel strongly that if an abortion is the decision it needs to be done extremely quick, and prefer it really only in the cases of incest and rape or life threatening to the mother. Just look at pictures of how fast kids develop. You won't have the same connection as if it were your own kid, but hopefully my point is made a little stronger.