Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
This is the fundamental disagreement. By treating everyone, even those that cannot pay, MORE will use the system...more that can't pay that is. Not being able to pay deters some from seeking care...reducing the load. You can't say they will get other's sick without care, increasing the load. They will get others sick care or no care...

This just doesn't make sense.

On top of that, the system can't handle more people so quality of care for ALL will go down.

Unless this bright idea of giving care to all, even those that don't pay, includes some sort of plan to double or triple our healthcare providers, we all lose a lot more than money. The extra patients in the system don't pay so there will be no funds to educate, train, equip and hire new providers to care for those extra patients. So we need to pay both for non-payers' care AND pay for the extra doctors needed to treat them to make this work. That's a big bill to foot...
The people are in the system now and if there are more that come into be seen well that means more jobs for workers now doesn't. Wow, you just stimulated the economy. As to providing the best care in the world for all Americans... Well this is up to us to decide what level of care is to be the base level. Today we have death panels run by for profit insurance companies with an incentive to kill you rather than treat you. I would rather take my chances with a panel that I can change through my elected representative than one where I have no say at all.