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    I don't see it. I googled it but as far back as 2008 but it was in Canada. I don't remember hearing anything on TV, but then again I don't watch TV. To depressing.
    Who are you to want to escape a thugs bullet? That is only a personal prejudice, ( Atlas Shrugged)
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    March 2006

    “The fact that we are here today to debate raising America ’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure.... It is a sign that the U.S. Government can't pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America ’s debt limit.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpstart View Post
    March 2006

    “The fact that we are here today to debate raising America ’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure.... It is a sign that the U.S. Government can't pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America ’s debt limit.”

    -Sen
    . Barack Obama,D-Ill.


    well that was before he got what he wanted.
    Back then he was also running as a "Kenyan Senator"

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    Its enough to piss off the pope!!!!
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    here's the problem....

    I don't think there's one of us that doesn't think our country is in financial trouble. I also don't think there's an elected official who doesn't see the trouble also

    But. . .

    The taxpayers just paid $899,000 to study penis size in gay men and their preferred sexual position.

    http://www.newser.com/story/123730/f...enis-size.html

    So we struggle to pay foreigners money we don't have, but spend almost a million dollars to find out if you're gay and have a small cock, you're more likely to take it in the ass.

    Yep, the .gov knows how to spend my money better than me. Please tax me more so I can help fund this shit (with money we borrow)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpstart View Post
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    “The fact that we are here today to debate raising America ’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure.... It is a sign that the U.S. Government can't pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America ’s debt limit.”

    -Sen
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    Nice find.
    "There are no finger prints under water."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpstart View Post
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    “The fact that we are here today to debate raising America ’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure.... It is a sign that the U.S. Government can't pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America ’s debt limit.”

    -Sen
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    Something that would be funny and ironic is if we quoted this to him and ask whether we should listen to this Senator or not. And if he says who said this rubbish?
    Sen Barack Obama.
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    Here's a quote for yall to chew on...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cicero, 55 BC
    The budget must be balanced. The Treasury must be refilled. Public debt must be reduced. Arrogance of officialdom must be tempered and controlled. Assistance to foreign lands must be curtailed, lest Rome become bankrupt. Citizens must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.

    Its been said before by myself and others that we're heading down the same path as the Romans and will end up just as they did.

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    At the time of the fall of Rome. All taxes had been shifted to the middle class (like today) the middle class was driven into debt slavery (like today) and the upper classes felt so deserving that they never served their nation in things like the military (like today) and then Rome fractured along political fault lines.

    Rome did not end in 400AD. Half of it did.

    Prior to that a political split happened. The small gov libertarians took over the Western Roman empire and the bigger gov public good type people took over the Eastern half.

    The Western half ended around 400AD

    The Eastern half lasted till 1400AD

    Chew on that...

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