Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
Amen, brother A-M-E-N. Head, wall, hitting....
And quoting progressive websites does not make for a convincing argument. Sorry. It just does not. Especially since not only have I read the left view of the numbers game, I have read the right. Then I took both those and compared it to what I came up with on my own looking at the IRS and .gov info with out the spin, just the numbers.

Then there is the history angle. More and more the history books are being changed. What our kids are being taught in schools these days are... spun, for lack of a better word, to reflect the views of the teachers. FDR was not a fiscal conservative. If the plans he enacted are soooooooo beneficial then why did the depression last longer and was worse in our country then in others that did not go on a massive spending spree like he did?

All I have heard are made up numbers with out backing and re-written history.

While I might have the time to argue against his "points" right now it does not mean it is not a waste of time to do so. By seeing what he is quoting and how he is presenting his arguments you can see that he has drunk the koolaid but still believes that he is a free thinker. You are not going to change his mind. And this thread raises my BP just reading it.