Law I'd enact...

[Clint45]

The "wall" will not work . . . we need snipers.

[Graves]

The "wall" will not work . . . we need snipers.

And a moat . . . with aids infected sharks . . . on pcp.

[Byte Stryke]

And a moat . . . with aids infected sharks . . . on pcp.

with ""LASERS""

[Tweety Bird]

Completely against the 6th ammendment. One of the biggest problems we have is politicians play games with the constitution as it is.

Really?

Here it is, in its entirety:

"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence. "

[Clint45]

And a moat . . . with aids infected sharks . . . on pcp.

with ""LASERS""

Unfortunately, sharks are not vectors for HIV and are too stupid to fire lasers. You need dolphins for that.

[Irving]

Completely stupid idea.
First of all, the punishment has to fit the crime. None of yours does.
How do you distinguish between someone here on vacation and being an illegal? Do you even care?

Would you be willing to accept the exact same situation for US Citizens traveling to Mexico? I'm sure no drunk US kids commit crimes in Mexico during Spring Break.

[alxone]

I'm sure no drunk US kids commit crimes in Mexico during Spring Break.

[P_R]

How about this idea...

1. Get rid of the welfare state-
No wic, ss, medicare, food stamps, public education, publicly funded medical care for indigents... everything.
2. End the war on drugs.

Results:
1. Far fewer cretin leeches will want to come here to suck off the government tit.
2. Drug runners find themselves competing against the likes of Walmart and quickly go out of business thus greatly reducing the violence associated with the drug industry.

Ancillary results:
1. Our homegrown welfare dregs might well leave.
2. Our drug users OD and die since docs will likely no longer see them once government stops paying for their care.
3. Our police and politicians will face much less temptations with bribe money from the drug trade.

Caveats:
1. Probably need to get your medical insurance up to date and wear some id so that if you get in a wreck and need care that the hospital can look you up and see whether you're good for payment. Your choice though. I don't care what you do, or how/if you're cared for.
2. People need to provide for the education of their own kids. Not my problem whether your kids are smart or stupid. Besides, I personally think that the education of children is far too important to leave in the hands of the government since the government turns everything it touches (including kids) into a big pile of ... poop.
3. People would need to take care of themselves and each other. No more sponging off the government when you lose your job or decide to retire.


Here's my distant second idea. Much worse than my first plan but there might be some satisfaction in the implementation.
1. Seize a ribbon of land on the Mexican side of the border - maybe a quarter mile wide from Gulf to Pacific.
2. Remove the inhabitants (this is an optional step if we want to be courteous,)
3. Bring the military back from all our overseas adventures and put them along this DMZ area. This would include everybody in Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea, all UAV's, etc.
4. Kill anyone caught in the DMZ.

This would be kind of like the DMZ between the Korea's. They seem to have their immigration issue under control.

[ChadAmberg]

So what you're saying is they have the same rights as US Citizens? I like to think that the 6th applies to US Citizens, not invaders from a foreign country. Look at how many people are in this country illegally and then look at the crimes they commit. Let's not forget, 70% of MS-13 currently in prison are illegals. I'd rather they not be in my jails eating and sleeping on my dollar, I'd rather them be gone... as in gone from existence. I'm sure they will do their best to uphold my rights in Iran! Why should we be different in that regard?

Yes, they do have the same rights as Citizens as defined by the Bill of Rights. The Constitution will specifically say Citizens when it means only US Citizens. And the Bill of Rights protects the inherent rights of mankind from interference by the government.

[Milt]

P_R:

Spot on; I;ve been advocating this for years.


ChadAmberg:

Not only that, but our founding document (the Declaration of Independence) clearly states that the universal nature of our natural rights is 'self-evident'. The fact that all governments routinely violate those rights (some more than others) does not negate the existence of those rights.

As you correctly stated, our Constitution's Bill of Rights does NOT establish any rights; it merely defends certain pre-existing rights.


Both of you:

Well said.