Please act

[jscwerve]

Putting this in General so it gets exposure.

The email earlier today from RMGO really concerns me. Typically I am pretty sceptical from any email from Dudley Brown, but not this one.

The Boulder Ranger District has a history of closing land under for false reasoning and outright lies. Case in point: Left hand Canyon. Just past the shooting area there used to be a trail called Carnage Canyon. The BRD felt the trail needed to be closed and there was a plan made for an alternative area for OHV use on Firemans Hill. This was about 4 years ago if I can recall. This is what really happened: The BRD started to build a challenge course for us rock crawling fools by putting up a few cables and posts on top of Firemans hill and calling it the challenge area, but to this day it remains closed because of some "engineering issues" In the meantime the BRD stated that it would not actually close carnage canyon until the alternate area was opened, that being said, as soon as the "challenge area" was started they closed carnage canyon for "sedimentary" issues that were undocumented and unsubstantiated. To this day both areas are closed I'm assuming forever. I know that was an OHV issue, but here's how it relates to shooters.

The proposal for the renovation of the Allenspark shooting area is the same bait and switch tactic they pulled on us off roaders. If you look at proposal B in the Allenspark EA it is the same story all over again, but this time for the shooting area instead of an OHV trail.

http://a123.g.akamai.net/7/123/11558...LT2_052703.pdf


The closure of the area is only in effect until the end of this year and has to re-open by law. If they decide on proposal "B" I fear that they will use the same tactic they used on the OHV community and start developing the shooting area, but never actually opening it. Proposal "C" is absolutely unacceptable, permanent closure.

PLEASE contact the US forest service, representatives, congressman, govener, relatives, everyone you can and fight to get this area opened again, not closed permanently as the BRD would like to do.

[Byte Stryke]

what was it someone said in another thread?

but you are trying to herd cats in my opinion...

screw it, let em close them all.


I cannot care anymore

[mcantar18c]

I miss Carnage, it was nice and close and fun. Carnage BV is just too far for a spur of the moment run.

[hollohas]

I guess he is listening to us. We asked from some more facts in his emails (this one provided an external link as well as the proposals) and we asked for a call to action other than money (and this email told us who to contact).

Nice work.

[jscwerve]

I know, I was surprised at the email myself.

The BRD is a bunch of underhanded bastards. I'm sure if they get their way the area will be closed forever.

[alxone]

when we asked rmgo to get involved in clean up's (and even offered money and free good press), the dud not only said no but made it a point to insult us for even trying . his email is a little johnny come lately in my opinion and im not impressed one bit.

[Mtn.man]

Ahh,,, but now maybe he needs to make the mortgage...

[DD977GM2]

Screw RMGO, I wont support them for anything. I thought I got rid of seeig these damn emails, but this thread like an accident, I couldnthelp but open it up.

[alxone]

[quote]I don't deny a range cleanup brigade would be nice. But, it wouldn't change the views (anti- or pro-gun) of the Park Service bureaucrat. And even if it did, so what? For a group focused on public policy (i.e. gun laws), this does nothing.-dudley brown [quote]

[jscwerve]

Hey, I'm not part of RMGO, or have any association with them. I could give two shits if you want to bash that organazation. Make your own thread to do it. There was good info in that email, and he didn't ask for money either.

I posted because the Boulder Ranger District has been allowed to run amok on public lands and are continually striving to PERMANANTLY close PUBLIC land. They have a history of it and this falls right in line with their MO. I thought there were people here that cared enough about not getting the few areas we do have get shut down to take 2 minutes and write a letter.

I guess I will just stick with my 4x4 associations to call for help with land use issues as it seems to me that no one here really cares when the GOVERNMENT is taking YOUR LAND from you. For all the big anti-gov talk on this board it is astonishing to see that no one is willing to take a few minutes and ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING.

I can see now why it is the 4X4 clubs that held annual clean ups of the SHOOTING AREA of Left hand canyon, not the shooters.