Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

[TFOGGER]

http://www.9news.com/news/article/20...yssey=obinsite


Gotta say, if he had just returned the keys(rather than try and extort money from an old woman), he'd be eating dinner with his family tonight. Based on the size of the knife(9 inch blade), I'm thinking he had more in mind than trimming his fingernails.

[Monky]

I was just reading the article earlier...

I don't know why he would try to swindle an old lady out of her money.. But had he known it was a cop he'd of just given the keys over!

Darwinism at its finest!

[Ronin13]

One, bad idea for the cops to go UC, but I can understand them trying to go about this differently. But seriously! "I have your keys, you can get them back for $50." I'd just retort with "Give me my keys or you can have the police asking you for them." Why would you even try to extort someone? This guy probably got what he deserved, cop or no cop you don't threaten someone with a 9inch knife! What did his family think would happen? What if it was a CCW holder and not a cop?

[Zundfolge]

He didn't know it was an under cover cop ... so its okay to extort people and then pull knives on them as long as they're not cops?

Idiot. And no, he's not a good person. A good person leaves a note saying "I found your keys, give me a call at (303) XXX-XXXX and I'll tell you where you can pick them up"

[Byte Stryke]

while the guy was a dumbass for trying to extort money for finding car keys, I do not believe he should have died over it.

I dont care if you tell me you are fucking Jesus Christ, unless you have a badge and uniformed backup the cop is lucky as fuck he wasn't the one getting shot.

I Heard about this other guy that claimed to be a cop too:


the UC Officer should have had uniformed backup move in to do the arrest.
Period.

[Ronin13]

while the guy was a dumbass for trying to extort money for finding car keys, I do not believe he should have died over it.

I dont care if you tell me you are fucking Jesus Christ, unless you have a badge and uniformed backup the cop is lucky as fuck he wasn't the one getting shot.

the UC Officer should have had uniformed backup move in to do the arrest.
Period.

I agree, bad move on their behalf no bringing badges. Patrol cops trying to be vice
Why wouldn't you have uniformed backup, what do you think was going to happen? "I'm a cop, but I don't have anything to prove I'm a cop."

[hollohas]

Cop should be fired. Attempted extortion or not. If some dude in plain clothes, no cop car and no badge comes up to me and tries to forcibly take me out of my car, I'd have no other choice but to assume he was trying to car jack me, beat me or kidnap me. I'd run his ass over to get out of there. If that didn't work, then he'd be lucky if only a knife comes out.

There have been plenty of cases around the country where bad guys posing as police have hurt people. And any reasonable person would agree that he was justified to defend himself against a plain clothes person with no identification or badge.

If this went the other way and he had killed the plain clothes officer without a badge and survived the resulting police responders, I am willing to bet he would be found not guilty.

I'm sure officer also broke all sorts of department protocol by removing his uniform, not carrying his badge during his shift and driving another person's car to make an arrest. This all adds up to intent in my mind.

This officer played a stupid game and he needs to win a stupid prize.

By Colorado state law, he should be tried for murder. The aggressor and instigator of an altercation cannot use self defense as a defense to murder when the victim of his aggression tries to defend himself with force. I am paraphrasing by memory of course... EDIT: Check out Colorado Revised Statutes 18-1-704 and 18-3-107 for your own reference.

[Irving]

I'm still glad the extortioner died.

[Monky]

So... I'm failing to see howTF the cop has become the bad guy here...

Did I miss something in the article where it states the PD guy stated he was a cop and the guy asked him for ID? When he couldn't produce it then he pulled the knife?

Friel says the officer identified himself as a member of the Aurora Police Department during the struggle, but he did not have a badge on him.

During the struggle, Contreras tried to pull out a knife so the officer fired three times. Contreras was hit and killed.



I miss where it states Contreras asked to see some ID..



Perhaps I need to get my head so far up my ass that I can see a criminal attempting to extort someone as the victim here...

The guy produced a knife... had it been a regular plain clothes citizen w/o a badge who shot him... would it make a fucking difference?

I don't think this criminals first reaction upon the officer identifying himself as an officer was 'Oh he's not a cop he just wants to do harm to my person, I should use this knife I have cleverly hidden just in case something like this were to happen..'

More than likely it was 'Oh fuck a cop, I'm not going to jail'...

Dumb move on the part of a patrol officer to handle this, BUT there had to be other cops aware..

Bad Guys lose... bottom line.

[Irving]

The guy produced a knife... had it been a regular plain clothes citizen w/o a badge who shot him... would it make a fucking difference?

Ummm, YES. He produced the knife while the officer was attacking him through his car window.