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    Quote Originally Posted by dropped_71chevy View Post
    Let's keep kids out of society, don't teach them how to be an adult, and then give them full blown freedom at 18. Sounds like a plan to me.

    Parents, discipline your children. This isn't that damn hard.

    Parents want the gov/public schools to teach them.

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    I definitely know what you mean Mtn. Man.

    I have a 15 month old son that I won't let a peep come out of let alone a full blown tantrum in public. Most parents just don't give a damn.

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    Our son was never allowed to act up out in the public the way kids do now days. If he did he was punished on the spot! I cant stand screaming kids in theaters and restaurants. Find a baby sitter or learn to discipline the brat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.man View Post
    Parents want the gov/public schools to teach them.
    There is a great documentary called Waiting For Superman. It's about the problems of inner city schools. Lots of great info. The main conclusion is that it is the teachers fault the kids don't learn, are disruptive and have no self control. Not the parents. Not society. The teachers.

    I'm all for the village raising the child and pressuring the parents to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I hate to sound like a cranky old man, but when I was a kid if I acted up in public it got me an unpleasant trip to the bathroom or parking lot.

    The problem isn't the kids, its the fact that parents these days don't understand that if you strongly discipline your little crumb cruncher when he's 4 you don't have to bail him out of jail when he's 17 (or worse identify your little angel's body at the morgue once I shoot him for breaking into my house).


    Also it kinda rubs me the wrong way that as a childless couple my wife and I are treated like second class citizens a little too often.
    Don't lump me in with "parents these days". My little one (3 yrs old) gets compliments everywhere we go on what a well behaved, polite little girl she is. She never acts up in public, and damn rarely at home. That did not happen by accident.

    Now, for those of you who hate sitting next to kids on airplanes...well I feel you. I traveled for business for almost 20 years before we had our daughter. Millions of miles. I sat next to way more than my share of grumpy kids. I get it, now you get over it. Air travel is stressful on kids like nothing else I know, and even children of the best parents end up past their limits sometimes. There is simply no way of avoiding it short of not traveling, and if you think I'm not taking my daughter to see her grandparents just so you don't have to sit next to her, you're going to be disappointed. It's just one of life's little inconveniences.

    Actually, if you sat next to my daughter on an airplane, she'd probably be making friends with you before we got off the ground. The little bugger is hard to resist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim K View Post
    Don't lump me in with "parents these days". My little one (3 yrs old) gets compliments everywhere we go on what a well behaved, polite little girl she is. She never acts up in public, and damn rarely at home. That did not happen by accident.

    Now, for those of you who hate sitting next to kids on airplanes...well I feel you. I traveled for business for almost 20 years before we had our daughter. Millions of miles. I sat next to way more than my share of grumpy kids. I get it, now you get over it. Air travel is stressful on kids like nothing else I know, and even children of the best parents end up past their limits sometimes. There is simply no way of avoiding it short of not traveling, and if you think I'm not taking my daughter to see her grandparents just so you don't have to sit next to her, you're going to be disappointed. It's just one of life's little inconveniences.

    Actually, if you sat next to my daughter on an airplane, she'd probably be making friends with you before we got off the ground. The little bugger is hard to resist.


    Same.
    I am constantly on mine about not throwing a tantrum. No means No, not Maybe if you cry... and we always say, Please, Thank you, we wait out turn and we dont run and scream inside.

    Punishing all parents for the irresponsible ones is like all Gun owners are terrorists.

    its a cop-out for the lazy.


    I have a GREAT Idea.
    Noisy Kids?
    "Sir, Ma'am, you are disrupting other patrons here. If you cannot control your children, we are asking you to leave."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    I have a GREAT Idea.
    Noisy Kids?
    "Sir, Ma'am, you are disrupting other patrons here. If you cannot control your children, we are asking you to leave."
    I agree, completely.

    But if we could also extend this to drunk morons who can't hold their liquor, disrupt the ENTIRE establishment, and occasionally start fights, MAN, would going out be fantastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I hate to sound like a cranky old man, but when I was a kid if I acted up in public it got me an unpleasant trip to the bathroom or parking lot.
    Is that all you got ? You must have been one of those 90s brats.
    In my day, if we acted up in public, we got a good thump or slap up side the head ( dependent upon if it were Pa or Ma who was closest ) right where we stood or sat as the case may be.
    That would straighten you right up, look how good I turned out !

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    Quote Originally Posted by SideShow Bob View Post
    Is that all you got ? You must have been one of those 90s brats.
    In my day, if we acted up in public, we got a good thump or slap up side the head ( dependent upon if it were Pa or Ma who was closest ) right where we stood or sat as the case may be.
    That would straighten you right up, look how good I turned out !
    I am never disciplining Alex again...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I hate to sound like a cranky old man, but when I was a kid if I acted up in public it got me an unpleasant trip to the bathroom or parking lot.

    The problem isn't the kids, its the fact that parents these days don't understand that if you strongly discipline your little crumb cruncher when he's 4 you don't have to bail him out of jail when he's 17 (or worse identify your little angel's body at the morgue once I shoot him for breaking into my house).


    Also it kinda rubs me the wrong way that as a childless couple my wife and I are treated like second class citizens a little too often.
    +10 not the kids fault! I acted out of line I got my ass beat end of problem!! No time out or go stand in the corner. Leather belt?? Or go pick a switch from the nearest tree!! My choice.

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