To All 1911 Fans

[Atrain1]

I have to agree with mcantar. The 1st thing I thought was price of ammo. Good luck with that, I predict a short retail life for the gun and cartridge.

It would not bother me at all, with the low low serial number it will just go up in value.

[Graves]

It would not bother me at all, with the low low serial number it will just go up in value.

Unlikely.

[mcantar18c]

It costs the same as a 9mm I buy by the 1000, and its well worth it, have you seen what this little 40 gr bullet does to a watermelon on youtube. And it has a 9mm barrel with it, as far as I know I am the only one that has one in the us.

Got a link for that pricing? Even if you can order cases of it for a similar price as 9mm, you still have the availability issue. I haven't seen .22 TCM on the shelves of any of the stores I go to (which are all full of 9mm, btw).
Yes I've seen the videos. I can't find any hard numbers for it, but from what it is and what I've seen in the videos it seems like its very similar to 5.7x28... I'd venture to say that its an attempt at a rifle-power handgun cartridge similar to the 5.7x28 but easier to produce/manufacture. Going off that... its freakin dumb. Once again, too difficult to find (and until I see numbers to prove me wrong, I'll say too expensive, too) for a general plinker, and impractical for a fighting gun. Not to mention, if used for two-legged targets, you'll have a high risk of overpenetration. Again, this is all what I can guess from what I can see about the round, I haven't found any numbers for it.

Unlikely.

Agreed.

[Atrain1]

Got a link for that pricing? Even if you can order cases of it for a similar price as 9mm, you still have the availability issue. I haven't seen .22 TCM on the shelves of any of the stores I go to (which are all full of 9mm, btw).
Yes I've seen the videos. I can't find any hard numbers for it, but from what it is and what I've seen in the videos it seems like its very similar to 5.7x28... I'd venture to say that its an attempt at a rifle-power handgun cartridge similar to the 5.7x28 but easier to produce/manufacture. Going off that... its freakin dumb. Once again, too difficult to find (and until I see numbers to prove me wrong, I'll say too expensive, too) for a general plinker, and impractical for a fighting gun. Not to mention, if used for two-legged targets, you'll have a high risk of overpenetration. Again, this is all what I can guess from what I can see about the round, I haven't found any numbers for it.


Agreed.

I got mine from armscor, and like I said I have the 9mm barrel so I dont have to shoot the tcm ammo. I am going to take it out today, it should run really good. Fred Craig personaly put this one together and tuned it for me so I would like it. The other cool thing is it takes para p18 20 rd mags, so I have a couple of those on order. The slide to frame fit is really nice I cant feel any movement, and it has had quite a few rounds throut it for testing and tuning.

[Atrain1]

22gr. HP @ 2050ft/s and 380 ft. lbf of energy 22 TCM (5.0 INCH TEST BARREL)

23gr. FMJ @ 2800fps and 400 ft. lbf of energy FN 5.7x28 (10.35 INCH TEST BARREL)

31gr. FMJ @ 2350ft/s and 394 ft.lbf pf energy FN 5.7x28 (10.35 INCH TEST BARREL)

28gr. JHP @ 2350ft/s and 344 ft. lbf of energy FN 5.7x28 (10.35 INCH TEST BARREL)

[ScooterCO]

It sure is black!

Enjoy!
It is always nice to get a new one.

[Hoser]

Fred Craig personaly put this one together

Good to see Fred building guns again. I have not seen him or his brother Jamie in 10+ years.

Why on earth would Fred build a gun around an Armscor frame...?

[Atrain1]

Man that is a fun gun, it is unbelievably accurate, and reliable. I think for guys that carry 9mm 1911 pistols it would be a great gun. I had to order 2 MG 20 rd p18 mags, so 20+1 it is a great gun. It is kind of cool when you pull the trigger on a 1911 and it sounds like an AR15, and the flash off the front of it is incredible.

[Irving]

I'm completely taken by surprise by the looks of this gun.

[Atrain1]

I'm completely taken by surprise by the looks of this gun.

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