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    I only require fingerprints and a hair sample :P

    But truthfully, I probably wouldn't give that much info to him. A name should be enough.

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    I've personally never sold a weapon of mine, I like them all and don't really collect so there hasn't been the need. But if I do, I would be inclined to get enough information to point authorities in the right direction if I needed it, like at least a drivers license number.
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    The requirement of an actual street address is why I'm not a member of RMGO, Cologunmarket, etc. -that info is none of their business.

    If I wanted a bill of sale with my name on it, I'd go to a gun shop.

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    I would give him nothing. A private transaction requires nothing.
    You did right telling to pound sand.

    You are obviously a Colorado resident via a Colorado phone number and Colo. tags on the car. The person needs nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorado Luckydog View Post
    .....wants my drivers license number, name and my address on a bill of sale. I was selling him a shotgun.
    Why would a buyer ever need this info from the seller? I don't get what he was trying to accomplish. I sort of understand a seller wanting a buyer's info but not the other way around. Someone was either logic-challenged or up to no good.

    I've never understood why people, who are so concerned with documentation, bother doing face to face private transactions. If you're that paranoid/brainwashed then go buy or sell via an FFL. It's the only sure way to get the government's 'blessing' on your activities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10x View Post
    You are obviously a Colorado resident via a Colorado phone number and Colo. tags on the car. The person needs nothing else.
    Gonna throw a penalty flag on this one. You have any idea how many wetbacks/illegals have a Co phone number and Co plates on their ride? It proves nothing.

    Legal requirements aside let's use some common sense here.
    Do you really want to be on the inquiry end of a firearms trace with no documentation?
    How do you think you are going to fare in a court of law with no documentation?
    How you think it is going to work out if you get pulled over on the way home, Johnny Law the over zealous cop runs the numbers on the shotty and oops, it comes up stolen and you have no BOS?
    Have fun with that.....................
    While it is perfectly legal to conduct a FTF with no more than a handshake you need to CYA.
    With the legal system being what it is you need to be able to prove that you took "REASONABLE MEANS" to sell/trade to a non-prohibited person if you are called into court.
    In a bill of sale/trade I include a line that needs to be dated and signed/initialed that affirms the party is lawfully allowed to purchase/own a firearm as defined by Federal/State law.
    It may seem like too much but when you get asked as to the disposition of item X because it was involved in a crime that BOS is worth it's weight in gold.
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    That's ColoGunMarket for you! That's why I only buy sell here! CO-AR15 wins again!
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    BPTactical, as you know, the seller does need to verify anything. He just cannot "know" the buyer is illegal. The illegals/wetbacks that you cite would likely have an English problem that would stop me from selling to them. The OP said he was the seller and the buyer wanted all of the information. The OP didn't do it. I wouldn't either.

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    I must admit, my first ftf I did here in Colorado, I was a little taken aback by just a handshake transaction. Coming from a place that you could only sell 4 guns ftf a year and there was a "specific form" that was filled out ( one copy for the buyer, one for the seller, and one that was turned into the criminal history board) I must admit I like the freedom better.

    When the JBT come looking for a gun, the answer of "I sold it" is legally all that's needed here.

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