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    Did you ask him if he just moved here from one of the commie states?

    No, I wouldn't give that much info.

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    I have sold two hand guns, an AR, and a shot gun and have never asked for this kind of info and I wouldn’t expect. All I need to do is see your driver’s license or CCW and we are good. I expect the same when I buy things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    You can LOOK at my drivers license and you can write my NAME on the BOS, but other than that I'm not handing some potential identity thief the keys to the castle.


    Also as far as I'm concerned the seller makes the rules not the buyer.
    this. i did this to a guy once because he had no posts on the forum. its not a legal issue, he can turn me down, but then i can refuse to sell to him. really more than anything i wanted to meet him in person and make sure his information was legit. all i took was his name and phone number, but seeing the license made me feel better about it. if someone has a good amount of posts, and especially some feedback, then i don't require anything

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    As long as they are of legal age and have a valid CO DL that is all you are required to check. On a few occasions I've allowed a SELLER to copy my address and DL # for a bill of sale, but you don't get a photocopy. I would never provide that data to a BUYER. He has no legitimate need for it, whereas a seller might want that record for piece of mind in the event ATF contacts him years later asking why a handgun he originally purchased was found at a crime scene. Some guys want no data exchanged at all, and I'm fine with that, but I'm usually willing to work with a seller who feels it will give him piece of mind.

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    Good God guys. BPTactical is running a BUSINESS in the firearms trade. You wanna buy/sell a gun thru him, it's going into his books one way or the other. As an individual it is a choice. The more info you can get from a buyer or seller, the safer you are via CYA. It's a choice- take yours and go to bed.

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    What does BPTactical have to do with anything?
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    He posted earlier that he wanted as much info as he could get while others were far opposite. Sorry if I sounded snippy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorado Luckydog View Post
    .....I told him to pound salt in his ass.
    Damn that's funny!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorado Luckydog View Post
    You got me there! LMFAO!!
    Good stuff Luckydog, that one actually made me laugh at work. I'm gonna use that one today to my boss. "Hey could you get this done?" ...."Sure sir, right after you pound some salt up your ass"


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    I need to clarify a couple of points on this subject.
    Yes I am a FFL holder.
    I conduct no transfers and or RETAIL firearm sales.
    The firearms I have sold/traded in FTF transactions are from my personal collection and as such are exempt from the encumbrances of firearms transferred under a FFL licensee.

    What I require for paperwork on a FTF transaction is wholly by my choice. I have had the joyous experience of having to deal with an agency in a firearm trace that came back to me. The fact of having a BOS with the party that I had conducted the trade with made the process very simple when dealing with the agency. I had the parties name, DL # and address on the BOS and a date/timestamp on the BOS. I provided a copy of the BOS to the agency and 5 minutes later we were done, painless process and I was instantly absolved of the issue.

    You think it would have been that simple without some form of documentation regarding the disposition of the firearm in question?
    NOT!

    Now if you enjoy answering questions to a LE agency regarding a firearm that traces back to you with no supporting documentation then you have a warped sense of enjoyment.

    Given the litigious nature of our society not to mention the demonization of firearms in general in our society I feel you are wise to document as much as you can regarding the acquisition/disposition of a firearm especially if it is obtained by private party transaction.
    Look at it this way-you purchase a used firearm from a dealer in a regular over the counter sale. You are automatically absolved of anything connected to that firearm prior to your purchase of said firearm by the BOS from the dealer.
    You do not have that absolution on a firearm purchased from a private party without a BOS.
    Do you want to have to deal with a detective when it is found that the firearm you purchased in a FTF last week is in fact a firearm that was stolen a year prior? With no BOS you are in a indefensible place. You are on the hook for possessing a stolen firearm. Now you get to pay an attorney to keep your ass outta the hoosgow.
    BOS= cheap insurance
    This is just my personal view on the subject and you are free to do as you please.
    Last edited by BPTactical; 08-03-2011 at 09:59.
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