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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Speaking of tax dollars...

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    I should be... but unfortunately that doesn't happen too often in my AO. They must know I'm here so they're on their best behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tmckay2 View Post
    sure i have no problem with flat tax. that means we stop this garbage of 50% of the country not paying taxes though, too. but that still does squat for the debt problem. ---- increasing taxes and making small cuts won't get us out. not even close. look at the numbers. its not like we have a small problem and we need to tighten the belt a little. we are in a disaster and no one is serious about getting us out because they want to be re-elected.

    Increase taxes and make large cuts. I think the DOD has TONS of room to trim. I also think we need to end all these unnecessary wars. I tend to agree with Ron Paul in that regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    Increase taxes and make large cuts. I think the DOD has TONS of room to trim. I also think we need to end all these unnecessary wars. I tend to agree with Ron Paul in that regard.
    im not against defense cuts, except when they do defense cuts instead of social cuts on BS programs. defense was one of the few things the federal government was actually supposed to be responsible for and spend tax dollars on. like with raising taxes, before defense cuts i want to see serious cuts made in areas that the federal government has zero business being involved in. once they show they can do that, ill consider defense cuts more.

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    Nynco continues to get owned. Your libtard reasoning is best left on your flowerpower forums with those who are like you. I am questioning if you even like guns and are simply here to be annoying and prove liberals are truly ignorant and further justify our dislike toward them and their ideals because you certainly are doing a wonderful job of it in your short time here.
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    Reading these posts as of late, from what they start as and what they de-evolve into, forces me to this realization: Arguing over the internet is just like running in the Special Olympics, even if you win, you're still retarded...
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    Our government will never be able to call into Dave's show and yell "I'm debt free!!!"

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    I'm just curious to one major thing that I keep seeing with taxes and the rich... Nynco- why do you hate rich people so much? Did they kill your puppy? Did they poop in your cheerios? I have some very rich friends who claim that they pay too much in taxes while some way down on the totem pole get breaks because they don't make very much. You propose that a flat tax would work, but the rich would still only pay so much and we should make them pay more. Why? A lot- not all- of these "rich #%" that you say should be paying more worked their asses off to get to where they're at (again not all of them did but a number put in a lot of work to make what they make) so why punish them for being successful? Just because person A makes $10M a year and you make $50K a year doesn't mean that person A deserves less of his income. You're saying that we should punish the excessively rich and that line of thinking is why liberals are usually the poorer folks who think they DESERVE stuff that they didn't work for... fuck that, you work for what you get, you don't get a free hand out. Don't like it, move. I'm not saying our system is perfect, but in theory you go to college, get a degree, get a job, work your ass off and make money. If you don't finish high school, you get an unskilled labor job, you work your ass off, you get minimum wage, and you're stuck in poverty... that's how the theory works. May not actually end up that way, but that's how my family found success, that's how a lot of people made something of themselves. I'm sick of liberals thinking it's somehow the higher echelons of society that owe something to everyone else just because they make more money. It's plain and simple bullshit. Just because someone makes $100+K a year doesn't mean that everyone is entitled to a piece of that. Why share the wealth when it goes against that idea that the harder you work (or in some cases the smarter) the more you make? Just because I make this much money doesn't mean I'm eager to pay my taxes so that a poor family in Denver can afford to put rims on their car and buy their kids designer clothes. I'd rather my taxes go to paying for police/fire/ems, military, roads, schools, and ensuring that we have adequate services for thing we actually need. I'm sick of paying for other people who can't support themselves. /rant
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    Again I don't really think taxes mean much in the debt talks since they are a drop in the bucket, but in my opinion the best way to do taxes is have everyone, I don't care how rich or how poor, pay the same. So let's say it's 20 percent. Everyone pays the same so there is still incentives to do well and you get rid of all the loopholes. But that's just a simple man 's opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    I'm just curious to one major thing that I keep seeing with taxes and the rich... Nynco- why do you hate rich people so much? Did they kill your puppy? Did they poop in your cheerios? I have some very rich friends who claim that they pay too much in taxes while some way down on the totem pole get breaks because they don't make very much. You propose that a flat tax would work, but the rich would still only pay so much and we should make them pay more. Why? A lot- not all- of these "rich #%" that you say should be paying more worked their asses off to get to where they're at (again not all of them did but a number put in a lot of work to make what they make) so why punish them for being successful? Just because person A makes $10M a year and you make $50K a year doesn't mean that person A deserves less of his income. You're saying that we should punish the excessively rich and that line of thinking is why liberals are usually the poorer folks who think they DESERVE stuff that they didn't work for... fuck that, you work for what you get, you don't get a free hand out. Don't like it, move. I'm not saying our system is perfect, but in theory you go to college, get a degree, get a job, work your ass off and make money. If you don't finish high school, you get an unskilled labor job, you work your ass off, you get minimum wage, and you're stuck in poverty... that's how the theory works. May not actually end up that way, but that's how my family found success, that's how a lot of people made something of themselves. I'm sick of liberals thinking it's somehow the higher echelons of society that owe something to everyone else just because they make more money. It's plain and simple bullshit. Just because someone makes $100+K a year doesn't mean that everyone is entitled to a piece of that. Why share the wealth when it goes against that idea that the harder you work (or in some cases the smarter) the more you make? Just because I make this much money doesn't mean I'm eager to pay my taxes so that a poor family in Denver can afford to put rims on their car and buy their kids designer clothes. I'd rather my taxes go to paying for police/fire/ems, military, roads, schools, and ensuring that we have adequate services for thing we actually need. I'm sick of paying for other people who can't support themselves. /rant

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